Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dreamscape (rave)

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. - Mailer Diablo 17:16, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Dreamscape (rave)
Blatant advertizing --Ryan Delaney talk 06:15, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

SUSPECTED SOCK ***Admitidly but the point is still valid. - Anon SUSPECTED SOCK *Keep,It should be all or nothing. Every event removed or every kept. Otherwise who has the right to say what event should be kept and which shouldn't be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.104.116.43 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete, speedy if applicable. This is both blatant advertising and an attempt to make contact. - Lucky 6.9 06:18, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: The anon removed the VfD notice.  I put it back. - Lucky 6.9 06:31, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, I beleive this is no different than any other annual event on here including Burning Man. To remove this would be hypocritical. [[User:Anon|Anon]
 * Above vote is by the author. - Lucky 6.9 06:37, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * With all due respect - and I mean no disrespect at all - there is a certain notability factor in your event that's somewhat lacking. I'm sure it will be a blast.  BUT...this is supposed to be an encyclopedia and not an advertising or communications medium.  In fact, this site is about as lousy an advertising vehicle as you can imagine.  Take it from someone who works with advertising on a daily basis. - Lucky 6.9 06:53, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete asap. Rkevins82 - TALK 06:54, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * User has 2 edits, both here. --TheMidnighters 08:00, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

SUSPECTED SOCK *Keep, Although this doesn't show notablilty, information about this party can be easily found. I think the fact that there isn't more info is showing that it is not an advertisement but a brief summery (like any encyclopedia). I for one do know about this and will be attending. The information is out there. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean thousands of other people don't. There is world class talent at this and I would consider it notable. --FlyRyan433 18:42, 19 August 2005 (UTC) SUSPECTED SOCK *Keep, It should be kept, that is all. OBVIOUS SOCK *Keep, I agree with the commentor above me, however, if this is to be deleted it should also be known that all other things stating events should be deleted as well. This will probably be taken down after it is over, anyways.
 * The folks who own the servers certainly do. :)  A major event like Live Aid, for example, is notable.  A tractor pull in Ames, Iowa is not.  Woodstock is a keeper.  A demolition derby at a county fair in Coffeeville, Mississippi...see what I mean? - Lucky 6.9 07:39, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn, ad. --TheMidnighters 08:00, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn, ad and Crystal Ball. Tonywalton | Talk 10:29, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as nonnotable -Nandesuka 10:58, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete an ad which doesn't even bother to suggest where in the city it is happening, which might, if it's a huge venue, suggest some notability. Alf 11:07, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a well known event that doesn't necessarily take place in the same place every year. If you have some events, then why not this? It has been going for many years. Just because you are not aware of it, doesn't mean it is minor, nor that it hasn't had a large affect on the rave generation (which i believe it has). That said, i would delete all events because they are irrelevant. --Genesis 12:58, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Lucky 6.9. It's not hypocritical to keep Burning Man but delete this article. Wikipedia isn't an all-or-nothing deal. We have articles on popular musicians, but we don't have one for your uncle's band that plays at the pub on Tuesdays. --BradBeattie 14:14, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete This shouldn't even warrant discussion. Can it be speedily removed? Dottore So 14:22, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep It looks like this has potential to grow. Trollderella 15:36, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ad for a rave with no proof of notability. --Icelight 18:07, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Advertising
 * Comment. User's first edit. Sdedeo 19:55, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Advertising a rave on wikipedia automatically makes it uncool and thus non-notable. Sdedeo 19:55, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment The above two entries were made in the same post, by an anon IP (first edit). Hard to get more sock puppety than that. --Icelight 21:33, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Advertising for nn event.  The argument that people are hypocritical for deleting some events, but not all events is offensive.  It's not a question of moral judgement, but of placing a cutoff.  Even if WikiPedia is not paper, neither can it hold all of the world's knowledge. ManoaChild 22:35, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable party advertisement. —Charles O'Rourke 22:52, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Crystal ball/advertisement for a non-notable event, supported by too many sockpuppets. --Carnildo 23:00, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete This appears to be a oneoff party of some sort: I only half believe the contents. -Splash 00:02, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment, check out http://dreamscape.eraver.net, it also on ravelinks.com, eternalbeats.com, and just about any other west coast rave site you can think of.... definitly not a oneoff --FlyRyan433 01:25, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. It may be a regularly-occurring event, but that does not confer notability. MCB 06:50, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete advertising, and puppet plague. Xoloz 17:50, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Advertising, non-notable, and goddamn I hate sock puppets.  (FYI I added the SOCK comments.) JDoorjam 16:51, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment, I am not a SOCK... Btw, Presales are already out for this. This is also expected to be the biggest EDM event Vegas has seen in the last few years... Knock it if you want for notability. I found the wikipedia entry by talking to friends on trillian about it. --FlyRyan433 22:37, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete. I'm inclined to believe that this could actually be somewhat notable, but the present article certainly doesn't present it that way. Perhaps some more content would be useful? Or would that defeat the "underground" purpose? --Several Times 20:11, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ad. Jaxl | talk 22:02, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment, Originators IP (208.1.112.109) Traces back to Grand Forks, ND. This further proves notability. --FlyRyan433 23:38, 25 August 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.