Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Driver career-ending crashes


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The result was   speedy delete.WP:SNOW, highly inaccurate list that needs WP:TNT (Allison wasn't killed in the off-season and Petty was a planned retirement). Secret account 16:57, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Driver career-ending crashes

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WP:Original research Article with poorly defined criteria, indeed it seems to contradict it's own criteria by including Lee Petty's whos crash did not end his career. The criteria appears to be arbitrary in nature as the article itself specifically mentions instances where the crash has no apparent bearing on the ending of the career. Career-ending crashes is a highly subjective term, drivers end their careers for many reasons, that there last race may involve a moderate to serious injury might not be the reason for retirement. They may just be unable to secure a job with a team following his recovery. The article also mentions drivers whose last race was a crash. There are no references, but additional to that I can find no compliation of such incidents on the internet that is in any way comprehensive. There are a great many sources for drivers who have been killed, but for drivers who retire after a crash it would have to be created piecemeal - in the manner of original research. Also as the term "Career-ending" is highly subjective, the notability and/or encyclopedic content must be in doubt. Falcadore (talk) 03:57, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Agree that the criteria is foggy. Drivers end their careers for multiple reasons, and short of death, crashes are usually only one factor in their decision to not return.  Referencing such decisions is difficult as they are usually personal matters.  The359  ( Talk ) 04:11, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete - I didn't want to jump straight in with an AfD myself, preferring to wait and see where the article went, but quite frankly, most of the entries right now are bogus. Lee Petty didn't have a career ending crash, and nor did Richard Petty, or Davey Allison. Beyond that, the inclusion criteria is always going to be very woolly; as pointed out above, there are a heck of a lot of reasons for a driver retiring. "Career-ending crashes" also implies that it is their injuries that prevented them from returning, not a personal choice, in my opinion. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 09:32, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete agree that the criteria is foggy. This fogginess makes the topic non-encyclopedic. Sourcing an article of this type is problematic and non-existent in this case.  Royal broil  04:03, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
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