Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Driver deaths in British motorsport series


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   No Consensus to delete with no prejudice against speedy renomination. This has been relisted for over a week with no additional comments. Eluchil404 (talk) 07:52, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Driver deaths in British motorsport series

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Such list do exists, but these are for notable drivers who fatally crashed or drivers who have crashed in a notable meetings/championships. For lesser notable drivers, entries only exist in lists for circuits that is notoriously dangerous or a race or series, supported by reliable third party sources.

The question is how many of these drivers are really notable to have their own article here enough to meet Wikipedia guidelines, only a small percentage, which is why I am nominating this for deletion as only a tiny handful and do we need a memorial for people who will never be notable enough for their own article. Not forgetting that I do not see any reliable third party source to back these up apart from the one whose death had nothing to do with this entry (both died outside the UK) as well that they are poorly sourced. Plus drivers in club racing series does not qualify for notability unless they moved up to bigger things. It should be known that the majority of these listed are in club series. Donnie Park (talk) 21:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Supporting comment We do not need a list of one event cases for that these people have never been notable before their accidents. Donnie Park (talk) 21:44, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - I believe that it's well established that people and things who are not otherwise notable can be included as part of a list, which is what this would fall under (I can't recall the specific page off the top of my head that says that, unfortunatly, but I do know it's there...). Anyway, this is a notable topic, however, it is horridly referenced - I doubt motorsportmemorial.org is a reliable source. If it can be reliably sourced, though, there is no reason to delete this. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. The Bushranger One ping only 00:27, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:28, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It is well established and notable topic because people die every year and these will only be covered only on Autosport and Motorsport News, not as major news. The question is are these amateur sportspeople ever likely to earn notability status because they fatally crashed, no, not under the WP:1E guidelines. and do we need a trivial list of club level sportspoeple who fatally crashed in club level sport and why do we need a list of non-notable people who fatally crashed in bottom level sport, which none of these will ever likely to meet notability guidelines.


 * The reason why lists for the Isle of Man TT, Indianapolis 500, Dakar Rally, Le Mans, Spa-Francorchamps, Monza, Nürburgring do exist is because these venues/events have a dangerous reputation attached to it and this nominated list only serve a purpose of being nothing but a memorial of those who died in club level sport, which will never meet notability. Donnie Park (talk) 12:31, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep Even if this list were narrowed down to only the notable drivers, it could still be a viable list. My primary concern is that all the drivers are sourced by only one source. Stedrick (talk) 14:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Albeit badly sourced.


 * It would be more viable to break the list up into those for separate circuits like every one of those lists, after all there are two circuits or more that is known to have (or used to have) a dangerous reputation to it which is Silverstone and Brands Hatch. At the end of the day, there are plenty of famous drivers who fatally crashed at these venues and what is better for us all, a dedicated list of those who fatally crashed at circuits or a list of non-notable drivers who fatally crashed in club series. Donnie Park (talk) 17:21, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Alpha_Quadrant   (talk)  03:51, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.