Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drugs I Need (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 19:34, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Drugs I Need
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Fake advertisement does not have significant coverage in multiple reliable independent sources, and fails the WP:GNG. Also fails WP:NOTNEWS due to it only being mentioned in passing in one news article with no sustained coverage. Jontesta (talk) 23:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Advertising-related deletion discussions. Jontesta (talk) 23:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, no proof of sustained coverage. Was made by a non-notable company and won an extremely non-notable award. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:55, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Keep. Due to the significant coverage in independent reliable sources, examples as follows:
 * 1) Barrett, A. (2005). Drug companies face the music. Student BMJ, 13 doi:https://doi.org/10.1136/sbmj.0509350a
 * 2) Julie, M. A. (2005, Mar 23). Satirical relief. The Journal News Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/satirical-relief/docview/442714754/se-2?accountid=196403
 * 3) Ives, N. (2005, Mar 13). Catching the OnlineCartoon virus. New York Times Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/newspapers/catching-onlinecartoon-virus/docview/433019654/se-2?accountid=196403 CT55555 (talk) 05:37, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The first one written by "Allison Barrett, second year medical student". Even ignoring that, these articles are mainly about JibJab media, and we don't create separate articles for every video mentioned, as per WP:NOTNEWS. (Though maybe there is a redirect target here.) Jontesta (talk) 15:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The first source is published in The BMJ, which I would consider an excellent quality source. So the credentials of who wrote it seem far less important than it being published in an independent reliable source, which is the normal standard for establishing notability.
 * The second source include the phrase "drugs I need" seven times and the phrase "Jib Jab" twice, so I don't agree with your analysis.
 * The third one could be argued to cover the company or the video or both. But the key thing here is if it covers the subject of the article. I think it does.
 * So I have considered your reply, but am not convinced by it, I remain keep. CT55555 (talk) 17:59, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:56, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems to pass WP:SIGCOV based on the sources provided CT5555. Further, it's the primary subject of the NYT article which doesn't even mention JibJab media, so the source analysis by Jontesta is false. Likewise, the other sources address the topic "directly and in detail".4meter4 (talk) 17:32, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course, I mainly agree, but the third one does indeed talk about Jib Jab (just without a space). So I thinks it's fair to say it covered both the company and the video, but still covers the video enough to justify me using it as a source. CT55555 (talk) 18:00, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - I am sold on the sources - the main kicker here is the coverage in the New York Times. MaxnaCarta (talk) 01:42, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. Do note that I've filled in the references to be more accessible. I feel this does not meet WP:SIGCOV. One of the NYT articles mentions it in 8 of the 16 paragraphs (with the article mainly about viral marketing, not on Drugs I Need); the other one does address the topic directly, but not in an in-depth manner. The BMJ piece is even more surface-level: a regurgitation of the video. And for the award, only one paragraph mentions it. Out of the four sources, they don't amount to much. SWinxy (talk) 03:08, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Jontesta (talk) 01:25, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep per improvements. Artw (talk) 01:53, 28 June 2022 (UTC)


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