Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dubbledge


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was No consensus, default to keep. Good improvement so far, but still need a bit more sources to establish notability. - PeaceNT (talk) 06:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Dubbledge

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Non-notable musician; has released 1 album, 1 mixtape—no hit singles. Fails WP:MUSIC. Precious Roy (talk) 16:48, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. PROD might have done the job. SingCal (talk) 01:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment It was declined for speedy deletion so I figured I'd skip right to AfD. Precious Roy (talk) 01:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: Highly regarded artist and pioneer of Watford Hip-Hop, signed to the largest and most well-known UK Hip-Hop label. Gazh (talk) 12:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Watford hip hop? The redlink indicates that this is not a notable style. And I don't see anything in the Low Life Records article that indicates they are anything other than a moderately successful independant label at best. In any case, he would need to have two full-length releases on the label to even possibly meet criterion #5. Precious Roy (talk) 13:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Name another successful UK based Hip-Hop label? there are a couple, but they are nothing in comparison to Low Life in terms of amount of releases and sales. Low Life is by far and away the most important label for UK based Hip-Hop. Gazh (talk) 18:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Arguing Low Life's importance here is pointless—even if it were a major label, he's only released one album. Precious Roy (talk) 18:52, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I've expanded this article a bit as I believe it should remain. According to Wikipedia it needs to meet at least one criteria, which it now does.  There are now three links in the article's reference section, which should cover criteria no.1.  Also, his "mixtape" is technically an album, he only called it a mixtape because of the number of collaborations on it (see the ukhh.com interview for the reason for this).  All the tracks on there are his own tracks and not previously released by other artists like mixtapes by Funkmaster Flex or DJ Clue.  This means he has two albums, which covers criteria 5.  Therefore this artists covers two of the criteria for notabilty, which is more than enough to save it from deletion. Dj rizla (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   —Precious Roy (talk) 14:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article includes evidence of multiple significant non-trivial coverage.--Michig (talk) 22:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Interviews on two minor genre websites and a three sentence review doesn't seem particularly significant to me. Precious Roy (talk) 00:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment They can only be considered "minor" when you take them out of context of the genre of music they are about, any website about UK hip-hop can be considered minor, but within that genre they are both respected websites. One of them even comes up as the top result in a Google search of UK hip-hop. But Dubbledge still has two albums out ("Fist of Jah" and "Richest Man In Babylon"), which is enough to keep the article. Dj rizla (talk) 10:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment One mixtape, one album; try and spin it however you like. Note that the Guardian review of ...Babylon refers to it as his debut. Precious Roy (talk) 13:30, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:MUSIC. One short, mediocre review is insufficient for notability. TerriersFan (talk) 00:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.