Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dublin Spartans


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The result was   Redirect. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 17:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Dublin Spartans

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Contested Prod with no explanation why it was contested. Non-notable amateur team with no independent sources. GB fan 12:58, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 14:09, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Amateur clubs are not usually notable enough for inclusion, and there are no sources at all to indicate that this is for any reason an exception. WP:SPORT does not explicitly cover criteria for amateur clubs, but the general character of the standards indicated there is way beyond this club. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:26, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 14:48, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:ORG Secret account 04:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Is Baseball Ireland the top level of baseball in Ireland? If so this team may be notable... I'm unsure on this one. Spanneraol (talk) 22:56, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If the highest level of a game in a country is low-level amateur clubs then there are likely to be no notable clubs in that game in that country. A club is notable if it satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines, not if it doesn't but it comes as close to doing so as all the other clubs in the same country. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:25, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep From Irish Baseball League: The Irish Baseball League (IBL) is the men's professional baseball league in Ireland (emphasis added). Ergo, the Dublin Spartans are a professional team competing at the top level in their sport in their country. (Also, even if they are amateur, winning ten league championships likely counts for something.) - The Bushranger One ping only 05:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Dont believe everything in Wikipedia :-) See my !vote below, they are an amateur team.—Bagumba (talk) 02:01, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, v/r - TP 01:19, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:ORG and WP:GNG, with lack of significant coverage from independent sources. This is not a professional team, as their own website says "The Spartans are an Irish Baseball Club competing in the Irish Adult Amatuer Baseball League. "—Bagumba (talk) 01:59, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Then they probably should be removed from the IBL's page, then. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It has now been removed. I looked for a reference for "professional" and could not find one so tagged it with a fact tag.  JamesBWatson then removed the word and stated he couldn't find one either.  GB fan 12:10, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Irish Baseball League otherwise Delete Redirect per WP:PRESERVE, otherwise delete per my above arguments.—Bagumba (talk) 02:47, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Irish Baseball League, given the above discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Bushranger (talk • contribs)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.