Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dubmarine


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was DELETE. &mdash; J I P | Talk 18:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Dubmarine
Delete this non-notable webcomic with Alexa rank 3,129,848. Article mentions nothing indicating notability, while saying "due to a lack of funds required to finance further printing" suggests extreme non-notability. Dragonfiend 18:53, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. — ceejayoz [kcyicyicyi[User_talk:Ceejayoz [[Image:Flag of Australia.svg|24px]] 19:19, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - as above. - Hahnchen 19:05, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - The comic is rather notable, and the saying "due to a lack of funds required to finance further printing" refers to the original incarnation of the comic BEFORE it became a webcomic. That comment did not refer to it's current online status, but only in it's original published form. (which was reprinted for the comic's historical reasons) That comment was meant to describe a footnote in the comic's pre-history as a published book that was privatly printed one year before, and was cancelled around December of 2003. Not the webcomic version, which was created the following Janurary and currently continues to receive many hits and pageveiws. In addition to the comic, the author is a well known font creator whose comic is almost that of the same reputation. You clearly misunderstood the "lack of funds" comment to mean something that you assumed. Therefore I vote the comic to stay for the reason of a misunderstanding by Dragonfiend. - TheNewX October 2005
 * I agree that Dragonfiend may have mis-stated that part of the nomination, but the fact remains that we have no evidence of "many hits and page views" or other notability. Can you cite a source with some kind of indication of notability?  You might see the proposed guideline WP:COMIC for the sort of things that we might look for. -- SCZenz 02:13, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
 * There is this graph image that i've uploaded, from the website's tracker that lists it on a recently daily average of around 500 hits: http://en.wikipedia.org/66.TheNewX
 * Also, i'd like to note that someone keeps defacing this page, with the first defacing being the removal of my nomination and replacing it with nonsense text and the constant repeating of the number 6 by a user with the IP of 152.163.100.138. (note 2: This is still continuing to happen from this vandal.) TheNewX
 * Yes, I've reverted that vandal myself. I'll warn him/her now. -- SCZenz 03:48, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I would like to respectfully add that when I created this page, I was unaware of the standards for adding an article of this variety. Having afterwards been informed of them, I can see that this subject does not meet the qualifications and should be removed. I apologize for the error. -- 4.156.144.241 07:08, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry if my AfD was confusing on the note about financing further printing. My intended point was that one could consider a webcomic moving into print as a sign of notability, but a print comic moving to the web due to financial trouble is a likely sign of lack of sales and therefore an indicator of non-notability. (Which of course may have as much or more to do with the economic climate as it does with the quality of comics themselves). Thanks to those that helped clarify my statement, and thanks to User:4.156.144.241 for being gracious and understanding while watching one of your first articles go through the AfD process. Dragonfiend 09:02, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, with apologies. I take the evidence presented at face value, but I do not think the comic is notable enough yet to warrant inclusion in the encyclopedia.  The relevant policy would be that Wikipedia is not a web directory.  I have a bit about webcomics here that tries to explain these issues, in general, from my own perspective: User:SCZenz/Webcomics.  Again, for what it's worth, sorry; I hope you continue to contribute to Wikipedia. -- SCZenz 03:55, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment - Note that I have also placed the author of Dubmarine up for deleteion, Vic Fieger - Hahnchen 00:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)


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