Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dubtronica (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Considering that sources have been provided after the last delete opinion and that (assuming good faith) the nominator has withdrawn I think there is sufficient consensus here that the topic is notable. Davewild (talk) 08:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Dubtronica
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Some time ago I have placed this note on the article's talk page: To PROD dubtronica article

I suggest PRODding this article. There are several reason reasons for doing so:


 * Google.Books returns 1 search result for "Dubtronica" request, and that result is a trivial note on this term:
 * I've surfed through first five pages of search results on the term and Google and found only trivial mentions of this term.
 * The article itself states that dubtronica is not "universally accepted" as term. This self-critiquous remake, however, sounds like original research as there's no citation provided for it.
 * The article's titular sentence states that dubtronica mixes electronica and dub in a subtle way. However, it never further explains what that subtle way is.
 * The term is incredibly vague, as dub is electronic music par excellence since the point of its creation.
 * Electronica is not a particular genre of music, that makes the term dubtronica even more vague.
 * The article linked at the end of this article is both of doubtful notability and still seems the only source of information for this mythical genre -- Appletangerine un (talk) 13:02, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

The PROD was removed, and I was suggested to set the AFD discussion for the page. Please discuss whether this article should exist. The previous discussion for its deletion met no consensus and can be viewed here: Articles for deletion/Dubtronica -- Appletangerine un (talk) 09:28, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 18:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 00:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient notability. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. The sub-genres is notable enough, and there are neough RS that mention the genre.
 * "Google.Books returns 1 search result for "Dubtronica" request, and that result is a trivial note on this term "- not all RS are indexed by Google.Books
 * "I've surfed through first five pages of search results on the term and Google and found only trivial mentions of this term." - well, it already proves that the term is in use by musical press.
 * "The article itself states that dubtronica is not "universally accepted" as term. This self-critiquous remake, however, sounds like original research as there's no citation provided for it." - the mere fact that you are proposing this article for deletion proves that the term is not universally accepted.
 * "The article's titular sentence states that dubtronica mixes electronica and dub in a subtle way. However, it never further explains what that subtle way is." - let's just remove "subtle".
 * "The term is incredibly vague, as dub is electronic music par excellence since the point of its creation." - you are deadly wrong. The original dub music of Jamaica had nothing to do with electronic music. It was simply instrumental versions of reggae songs played on slower RPM. Netrat (talk) 19:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete for lack of sources. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 04:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. The 27 Google News results and 22,000 Google hits show that this a fairly widely recognized (sub)genre. There's a decent article from the Miami New Times for starters. Probably better trimmed down and merged into Dub music.--Michig (talk) 19:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: per Netrat. - Ret.Prof (talk) 11:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

As User:Michig sourced the article with reliable sources, I call for closure of this voting. I'm Appletangerine, but I'm in the public cafe so I can't login with my account. However, initial concerns about unnotability of the subject turned to be untrue so the topic is absolutely legal now. -- 82.209.225.13 (talk) 17:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.