Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duck blood and vermicelli soup


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Snow keep. Deletion concerns have been addressed. Non-English reliable sources have been found establishing the subject's notability. (non-admin closure) Alpha_Quadrant    (talk)  03:43, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Duck blood and vermicelli soup

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We aren't a cookbook C T J F 8 3  20:03, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - I cannot see any reason why this recipe is especially notable. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 21:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - It's not a recipe, it's a soup. Northamerica1000 (talk) 13:45, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Duck blood soup is a notable delicacy not only in China but in other countries such as Vietnam and Poland - see czernina. There seem to be plenty of sources out there for this, e.g. Duck's Blood, Puffer Fish and Dog.  English language sources will tend to present this as a novelty but we should not bias our coverage towards the cuisine of English-speakers.  Food like cheesesteak or grits may well seem weird to other cultures... Warden (talk) 21:51, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:33, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:33, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: I think it definitely needs to be cleaned so it can be along the same lines as the bird's nest soup entry. I'll try to work on it sometime tonight but if anyone wants to beat me to it, feel free. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:34, 7 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Comment. The nominator has not advanced any coherent argument for deletion. I'm sure that we all agree that Wikipedia is not a cookbook, by why does that mean that this encyclopedia article, 90% of whose content is not cookbook material, should be deleted rather than edited? Phil Bridger (talk) 23:39, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't find any sources on why it passes WP:GNG...although I only speak English. C T J F 8 3  23:43, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Aparantly duck blood is considered to be a Chinese remedy for anemia: http://books.google.com/books?id=chVAT5NOTaoC&pg=PA120&dq=Duck+blood+soup&hl=en&ei=-Jm5ToPYEaegiQKT_ZH2BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&sqi=2&ved=0CEkQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Duck%20blood%20soup&f=false--MLKLewis (talk) 21:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - A notable delicacy in China and Poland.
 * •Pang, Kevin Pang; Borrelli, Christopher (October 27, 2011). "There will be blood. Chicago Tribune.
 * •"Duck Blood and Vermicelli Soup"
 * — Northamerica1000 (talk) 13:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Sources have been found. This is a notable food.   D r e a m Focus  23:00, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * keep Although western people cannot understand why such food are popular in China, it is the truth that this soup is famous, and loved by Chinese people. people outside China may get used to such culture from such articles. --Michelle jx (talk) 16:17, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong keep This easily passes WP:GNG, and googling the Chinese name shows that easily. This appears to be a case of systemic bias (see List of sandwiches.) Nominating for deletion on the grounds that "...We aren't a cookbook..." doesn't make sense to me. That would, however, make a fine edit summary when removing a recipe from a dish article. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:46, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is important to have articles on notable traditional dishes of the various cuisines of the world.--Pharos (talk) 21:48, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep and serve with prawn crackers. A subject can have notability even in the total absence of non-English sources, so it can clearly be notable when there are multiple English-language sources plus a very large number of sources in other languages. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:50, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - the how to parts have now been removed, and coverage shows it is notable. Yaksar (let's chat) 20:06, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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