Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duckefett


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The result was merge to Hessian cuisine. North America1000 12:20, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Duckefett

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Possibly non-notable food item. I was intrigued by the description and tried to find some sources, but I'm only finding bare mentions and recipes. Sadly having to conclude that this may not actually be notable. valereee (talk) 12:49, 4 February 2019 (UTC)


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 * Comment Restoring the AfD since it it was closed G7 speedy deleted, but then the author requested REFUND Requests_for_undeletion shortly after saying "I was actually wondering if it would turn out to be notable after all, thought maybe the AfD process would prove that". Jovanmilic97 (talk) 23:39, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Just to be clear, I nom'd orginally, then requested refund after original article author requested speedy. I'm not the original author of the article. I'm hoping someone perhaps in Germany could find sources that I'm not seeing. valereee (talk) 13:17, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment There is a very short Deutsche Welle article with cooking recipe about it (here). The sauce is also mentioned in the book Meine Kindheit in Nordhessen 1943-1950 (My childhood in North Hesse 1943-1950) by Walter Steinmetz. Gbooks snippet-preview p.73 (here) "This is a simple, typical North Hessian food from a ..." (end of preview), so i don't really know hom much in-depth it goes. If notability can not be established, redirecting or merging it to Hessian cuisine could work. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 09:53, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * , I've asked at the reference desk if someone can help us find a longer clip of that source. I don't read German, so I'll let you know if I get an answer! valereee (talk) 12:44, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Received this from reference desk:

I couldn't get a better preview, but managed to tease out some more text by repeatedly searching for the last phrase of each search result: "Das ist ein einfaches, typisch nordhessisches Essen aus einer Mehlschwitze mit ausgelassenem Speck und darin gebratenen Zwiebeln, dazu gab es Pellkartoffeln. Manchmal aß ich bei den Schneidersleuten am Tisch mit. Der Geruch dieses..." [2] "Der Geruch dieses Duckefetts lag mir immer sehr in der Nase. An Gerüche kann man sich noch lange gut erinnern. Der Schneider hatte nicht nur seine Schneiderstube in Riede. An einem Tag in der Woche war er auch in Kassel, in der Dörnbergstraße. Dort hatte er sich ein Zimmer angemietet für seine Kasseler Kundschaft. „Da kann euer Junge ruhig mal mit hinfahren", meinte der Meister zu meinem Vater. Wenn der Schneider von seiner Kasseler Kundschaft sprach, dann bemühte er sich immer hochdeutsch zu sprechen. Die Kunden in Kassel waren irgendwie vornehmere Leute als die Dorfbewohner". [3]

Some further sources: my grasp of German is somewhat limited, but try: Du Stadt im grünen Grund by Manfred Knierim. Deutschland: das Kochbuch by Alfons Schuhbeck. Hessisch kriminelle Weihnacht: 25 Krimis und Rezepte edited by Ursula Schmid-Speer, Anne Hasse.

valereee (talk) 19:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:47, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment, thanks for finding that. Basically only the first sentence of the quote is about Duckefett; together with the Deutsche Welle article it might pass as a "weak keep" for me (but rn im undecided, as merging is also an option). For the other sources: Du Stadt im grünen Grund seems to be published by a self-publishing service, so it's somewhat questionable as a source per WP:SPS; Deutschland: das Kochbuch is a cookbook by famous chef Alfons Schuhbeck, which has a recipe for Duckefett. Hessisch kriminelle Weihnacht: 25 Krimis und Rezepte is a mix of crime fiction novel and cookbook, Duckefett is mentioned a few times and there also is a recipe included. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 15:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


 * , hm, doesn't sound promising...maybe merge into Hessian cuisine, as you'd suggested?valereee (talk)
 * yeah, seems to be the best option here. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 14:43, 20 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge to Hessian cuisine per comments above, as sourcing is too thin for a standalone article. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 14:43, 20 February 2019 (UTC)


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