Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duff's Brooklyn


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 03:10, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Duff's Brooklyn

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I'm sure it's known locally but I'm not seeing much good to suggest improvement and better notability (best of my searches here, here and here (note that NYPress was extremely slow to load so I was unable to look at all articles). In total, I searched News, Books, Newspapers Archive (twice with both names), browser, highbeam and thefreelibrary along with NYDailyNews, NYPost, NYPress and NTimes. I'm also not seeing an obviously good move target. SwisterTwister  talk  06:08, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - The Village Voice called it "Best Metal Bar", Emily Gould of New York Magazine at the time profiled it. Other in-depth coverage easily found.  Even the nom acknowledges that it's "known locally", with in this case "local" meaning the 23 million population New York metropolitan area.  And who says something in New York wouldn't be notable outside it?--Oakshade (talk) 14:41, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ☮  JAaron95  Talk   13:42, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * uncertain local organizations in NYC   can be  a problem in applying LOCAL. I tend to be skeptical, but  their web site  lists enough awards that they might be notable. I can't judge in this field.  DGG ( talk ) 01:40, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 01:59, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per Oakshade. I think the sources he listed obviously establish notability, and that the article shouldn't be deleted just because of its current state if sources exist that are strong. Village Voice and New York Magazine are titan-sized sources. Nomader (talk) 17:26, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep New York City has a larger population than Israel and Switzerland, and many of these “local” sources have a national readership. While businesses that only get coverage in local press are rarely notable, I think the bar is an exception to this rule due to the absolutely leviathan size of what is considered local and the wide scope of the sources. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:25, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


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