Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duke Carl Gregor of Mecklenburg


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The result was keep. Very nice work by Russ. This is the kind of content one would like to see to show notability beyond the family. I will rename as suggested. Tone 16:52, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Duke Carl Gregor of Mecklenburg

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Mostly deposed monarch cruft, his career as a music and art historian does not appear to add up to much. PatGallacher (talk) 16:08, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 16:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


 *  Weak Keep per WP:NAUTHOR, multiple independent reviews of multiple works. Reviews of his books include .  Slightly weak only because some of the reviews are a fair ways towards the brief side. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 16:36, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * With additional reviews found and newspaper coverage for a slightly weak GNG case, this now looks like a solid keep to me. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 11:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:43, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment his academic background probably satisfies WP:NACADEMIC -- Devoke water   (talk)  16:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak delete per WP:TNT, unless the article is significantly changed. There could be an article here on his academic career, as there are multiple published reviews of multiple books, enough I think for WP:AUTHOR        . But the genealogy cruft and claims to three-generations-dead titles need to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:41, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY and WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:17, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes WP:GNG as a member of high European nobility and WP:Prof as a jazz musicologist. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:06, 21 August 2020 (UTC).
 * He is not a member of any actual nobility. He is one of numerous clutchers at titles that became extinct three generations earlier, in 1918. We should not be saying in Wikipedia's voice that he is a duke. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:54, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree about Wikipedia voice, although I don't think what's in the article now is so bad as for TNT. Meanwhile, he has gotten some coverage as a member of a former line of nobility, e.g. .  Especially since he was mostly active before the internet era, these might be borderline for WP:GNG. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 13:12, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Remove the titles & the pedigree, there's no great evidence of independent notability.  --Lockley (talk) 04:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've added his reviewed books to the article along with more career details, have been clearer about the "former" part of his former-noble-title last name and cut WP:UNDUE detail about his family, and have expanded sourcing.  If this ends in a keep, the article should be moved to "Carl Gregor Herzog zu Mecklenburg", as the name he operated under (including in contemporaneous English language reviews).   do you still have serious remaining TNT concerns? Russ Woodroofe (talk) 11:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


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