Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duke Karl of Brunswick / Count Isouard


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The result was   delete. Magioladitis (talk) 02:16, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Duke Karl of Brunswick / Count Isouard
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Seems a pretty clear case of WP:ONEEVENT - these people are (slightly) famous only because they were on the losing end of one of the most famous chess games of all time, the Opera game. The two individuals could have pages which are redirect to Opera game, but I can't imagine anyone typing in the name of this article ("Duke Karl of Brunswick / Count Isouard") to search for it. Peter Ballard (talk) 02:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The notable chess game already has an article. If the individuals are notable independent of the chess game, they should have individual articles. "Duke Karl of Brunswick" has an article at Charles II, Duke of Brunswick. "Count Isouard" may not be notable, even though the chess game is. Ryan Paddy (talk) 02:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per above.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! ) 03:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete this awkwardly named page that all but argues for the non-notability of its own subject(s). The creator may make separate arguments for the notability of the two individuals if he or she wishes to do so. JJL (talk) 03:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Both of the two are individually notable as nobility. The chess game they played together against Morphy is notable as it is cited in lots of general instruction chess books (and some non-chess publications) as an example of open tactical play. However, bundling two people together in an article for anything they may have done together is very awkward with a few exceptions for the cases where they are almost invariably tied together in history (e.g. Gilbert & Sullivan or Orville and Wilbur Wright.) Playing a single chess game together is hardly grounds for making such an exception. Sjakkalle (Check!)  06:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. The Opera Game against Morphy is already covered elsewhere and the title is not useful. As Sjakkale says, making a combo article when the duo played one game of chess together is a bad idea. - Mgm|(talk) 08:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete for the reasons given by Peter Ballard, Ryan Paddy, and JJL. Krakatoa (talk) 17:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as per everyone. Edward321 (talk) 05:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Sjakkalle Voorlandt (talk) 10:02, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.