Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dundalk Cricket Club


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The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 04:30, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Dundalk Cricket Club

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Cricket club fails inclusion guidelines per WP:CLUB, WP:GNG and WP:CRIN. Slightly confused what league the club plays in as I'm having a hard time finding which one it does play in (don't know if the editor is on about a Division 11 or a Division 2 (11) - eitherway like its fellow Irish cousins it falls short. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 17:00, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. The mention as a "club of the month" is nice, but doesn't amount to any depth of coverage.  Many major sports publications have such mentions (like Sports Illustrated section "Faces in the Crowd") but such one-off "awards" don't really amount to the depth-of-coverage expected by WP:GNG.  -- Jayron  32  17:27, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok the Division is eleven. There really is no comparison between a Wisden award and Sports Illustrated's Faces in the Crowd. The Leinster League is semi-pro and features many international players. More in depth covergae can be found in feature articles on the Cricket Ireland Website http://www.cricketeurope4.net/DATABASE/ARTICLES4/articles/000024/002400.shtml which is the governing body of Irish Cricket and Cover Point the Irish cricket magazine http://www.cover-point.com/post/Dundalk-Cricket-Club-Leinster-Division-11-Champions.aspx

The achievement of winning the Division in their debut year and being the only unbeaten club in the whole of the 14 Divisions is a not incosiderable one. EddieLu (talk) 18:19, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You are kinda working against yourself: Being the best in the 11th division of anything in Leinster isn't much of an accomplishment. Leinster is a beautiful, awesome place, but being the 81st best cricket club in a region with a population of about 2.5 million people isn't really a whole lot to hang a Wikipedia article on.  The results of league championships, no matter how small or miniscule, is frequently picked up by by some media somewhere, and I don't see where this counts for much.  Yeah, they went undefeated in a league against the 82-88th best cricket teams in Leinster.  That's not an accomplishment that usually merits a Wikipedia article, if that is the best that can be said.  If this was a top-flight club in any sense, we'd be getting somewhere.  But this isn't.  -- Jayron  32  18:42, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok whatever, I'm clearly fighting a losing battle, the governing body of Cricket in Ireland and the Irish Cricket Media think the club has achieved something, but it counts for nought in Wikipedia. EddieLu (talk) 21:44, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete Lacks significant coverage so fails WP:GNG and Wp:CLUB. Mt  king  (edits)  04:27, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Do what you like, I don't really care. The club exists it has done something quite significant in Irish cricketing terms despite what the "editors" of Wikipedia may or may not think. BTW Jayron32 I found your remarks rather patronising "Being the best in the 11th division of anything in Leinster isn't much of an accomplishment." I'll let the guys know they've been wasting their time effort and hardwork over the last two years then. EddieLu (talk) 07:57, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment while its achievements are good, it still doesn't merit notability. Firstly it plays in Division 11, as one user says this is simply too low a league to imply notability.  For English clubs we only have articles for ECB Premier Leagues teams.  Take my own cricket club, we've boasted P. G. Wodehouse, Ewald Steenkamp, George Wilder and William Whitcher - those are notable people/cricketers, but it doesn't make the club notable.  Some of the Irish clubs in Division One of their respective ICU struggle to get articles due to there being limited coverage.  But keep it up, as part Irish (and Italian) it's good to see Irish cricket spreading, who knows Test cricket might just be around the corner! AssociateAffiliate (talk) 09:49, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

It's the inconsistency that I find difficult, our near neighbours Knockharley Cricket Club have an entry they also play in Division 11, other than being older they are not particularly more notable than us and yet there is no intention to delete that article. EddieLu (talk) 11:28, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that Wikipedia is a big place, and merely finding another article that should be deleted doesn't mean that references about the Dundalk Cricket Club will magically appear. -- Jayron  32  11:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Jayron32 you really are a very annoying individual, I'm 47 not 7 years old, I was simply making a comparison with a similar club. I'm not bothered as to whether the article is deleted or not, I'm simply pointing out an inconsistency. EddieLu (talk) 12:30, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment the article you mentioned is also up for deletion now, I like to keep it fair - if one article which fails notability guidelines is up for deletion, then similar articles are put up for deletion as well. AssociateAffiliate (talk) 22:03, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
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