Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Durmus Kumdereli (now translated)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. bainer (talk) 03:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Durmus Kumdereli
Victim of beheading by Iraqi insurgents. Sadly, too many people have died in Iraq to make them intrinsically notable without significant media coverage, which I don't see evidence of. Wikipedia is not a memorial. --Last Malthusian 09:18, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Comment This was originally a German language article (see old discussion) and probably headed for the German Wikipedia, until I translated it. It failed to attract any more votes and was closed with a 'no consensus' - to be exact, one delete (mine), and one rather weak keep. Sjakkale (who closed it) said he wouldn't have any problem with a renomination to get further votes. Given that the original article was in German, I can't see the original author expanding it. --Last Malthusian 09:18, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Dlyons493 13:48, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - sheesh, these beheading victims all made worldwide news, and were very relevant. Even if it is common, they are all notable, every last one of them. Zordrac  (talk) Wishy Washy  Darwikinian Eventualist 15:58, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: At this point, the victims are too numerous to be sole examples or trail blazers. Wikipedia is not a memorial site.  We all mourn the loss and abhor the injustice of both the invasion and the terrorism, I think, but hostages are only worthy targets of encyclopedia articles if their lives, and not their deaths are notable.  Otherwise, their accounts can be mentioned in a "Victims of the Iraqi insurgency" or "Victims of jihadis" article. Geogre 19:43, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above Avalon 22:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The article said that he was shot and not beheaded (and it was an interesting read), but that's not the point. Wikipedia is not a memorial, and even having a section for non-Iraqis who were killed in Iraq would be asking for trouble.  We don't have a section (or article) listing all of our military personnel who died over there (or Afghanistan); nor should we. Delete. If it were possible, I would recommend that someone copy the article and deliver it to an appropriate memorial Web site. 147.70.242.21 22:09, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia ia not a memorial, and, however unfortunaqte it may be, getting killed in Iraq is not remarkable enough for an individual article in WP. --  Dalbury ( Talk )  01:44, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


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