Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dutch Dirty


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Dutch Dirty

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Non-notable musician. Speedy declined. Prod declined. So, on to AfD. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as I don't see anything to suggest this artist is notable enough for an article on Wikipedia. John Sloan (view / chat) 14:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * In fact, I think WP:CSD could well apply here. John Sloan (view / chat) 16:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:CSD WAS applied, but denied. Once a speedy is denied, it cannot be renominated.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. But my point about this article needing deletion sooner rather than later still stands. John Sloan (view / chat) 16:43, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

KEEP Makaylamac (talk) 15:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Why? Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 15:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Its started to smell like dirty socks around here! John Sloan (view / chat) 15:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Keep Page story regarding Fantasia and Dutch Dirty

Music is available on any peer-to-peer sharing network, and articles thru any search engine. Artist is unsigned and not found on a "Major" label's website, but the artist has a very sizeable fanbase, and is represented by a "major" management company (T-Pain's mother's "GoldFire Ent.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coreyarealgoon (talk • contribs) 15:13, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That doesn't meet WP:MUSIC, the music notability guidelines, by any means. Tons of non-notable musicians are on peer to peer networks. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 15:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I added a reflist and section for it so the references would be more visible... but there are only self-publications listed. The article seems to be languishing. Further...I see no note that the speedy was declined.  The speedy flag was deleted reapeatedly by Coreyarealgoon and last by Makaylamac, but there is no history entry for the declined speedy...apologies if I have misunderstood.sinneed (talk) 16:26, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right sinneed, the CSD tag was not declined. I have now re-tagged. John Sloan (view / chat) 17:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, sole claim of notability appears to be that he might have stood on a stage with a notable artist. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Or, well, been otherwise associated with a notable artist. Still not notable.sinneed (talk) 20:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Makaylamac (talk) 17:31, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * KEEP - ok, WTF does it matter if You have never heard of the artist in question? Do you not have anything better to do than to discuss whether or not an up-and-coming regional artist merits to have a wikipedia page or not? Obviously he has a substantial fanbase and an established stagename. Would it really destroy Wikipedia's standing to have a page included on Dutch Dirty?
 * Firstly, Wikipedia policy MUST be adhered to, simple. Secondly, you can not !vote twice. John Sloan (view / chat) 17:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Makaylamac (talk) 17:39, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for correcting me on the whole voting twice thing. My bad, my bad... But I do hope his page stays though
 * Delete Stagename, yes. (I've had a couple of them, too.) Notability, not yet. Come back later when fame (or notoriety) is more evident. Peridon (talk) 18:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - NN, no reliable sources.  Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 18:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, yet another "up and coming" artist who's not notable yet. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:43, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Abecedare (talk) 23:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.