Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dylan Thomas Trail


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The result was keep.  Sandstein  17:16, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Dylan Thomas Trail

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No evidence of any notability. All the sources come back to a single author and his books. Looks highly promotional. Fails WP:GNG as no sources are independent  Velella  Velella Talk 09:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

I object to deletion. The article is on a par with other Wiki entries for walking trails. It has been multi-authored since 2010. Its references do come back to the works of one author but there are no others, though it can be improved by references to reviews/discussions of the Trail eg in the BBC’s Countryfile Magazine. The article should remain but the external links to pubs should be deleted. August 4 2018. Celynbach
 * Comment - I can see no substantive edits other than your own. Most edits are highly gnomish around categories, commons files and welsh language translation . I can see nothing else substantive.  Velella  Velella Talk 11:43, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. Regards, KCVelaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 11:54, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:59, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Features on Long Distance Walkers Association web page and apparently merits inclusion, in the absence of a specific notability guideline on long-distance trails. Dave.Dunford (talk) 09:25, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Oppose deletion: “The common theme in the notability guidelines is that there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability.” (WP:GNG:) The Wiki article on the Dylan Thomas Trail passes this test: Guides

The Trail is listed on the following websites: Long Distance Footpaths in Wales, the Long Distance Walkers Association, The Walking Englishman, Open Paths and Trails, Geocaching, GPS Walking and Cycling Routes, Geograph, Wales Directory of Walks, Discover Ceredigion, VisitmidWales, and Tourist Attractions in Ceredigion.

The coastal stretch of the Trail forms part of the Wales Coast Path and the Ceredigion Coast Path. The Trail is included in John B. Jones’ 2014 book, The Ceredigion and Snowdonia Coast Paths. It is also included in The Ramblers guide at The Ramblers

The Trail is also listed on Wikipedia’s Routeyou: routeyou

and at WikiVisually: wikivisually

and also at newquay-westwales

Media

The Trail has been featured on the BBC’s Countryfile Magazine (at countryfile), and on the BBC’s Weatherman Walking programme (at weatherman walking)

The Trail comes first on the Wales Online list of 100 things to do in Ceredigion before You Die (at walesonline)

Newspaper coverage has included The Daily Telegraph May 15 and June 13 2014 and the Independent October 23 2014.

The Trail has also attracted the attention of photographers, such as Jeremy Miles (at Miles)

Books and Journals

Discussions of and/or references to the Trail can be found in:

F. Rhydderch (2003) Adieu Dylan, editorial, New Welsh Review, 62, Winter

O. Palusci (2006) Translating Tourism Linguistic/Cultural Representations, Cicerone

M. Griffths (2009) Small Town on the Big Screen: The Edge of Love and the Local Experience, in Journal of Audience and Reception Studies, 6, November

C.L. Nevez et.al. (2009) ''The Rough Guide to Wales

National Geographic (2009) Food Journeys of a Lifetime: 500 Extraordinary Places to Eat Around the Globe

S. W. Rhydderch (2015) Ceredigion Coast: Llareggub and the Black Lion in A Dylan Odessey: 15 Literary Tour Maps, ed. S. Edmonds, Literature Wales/Graffeg

Dylan Thomas websites

The Trail is referenced at Dylan Thomas and also included on the official Dylan Thomas website [https://www.discoverdylanthomas.com/resources/walking-trails-tours. discoverdylanthomas]

and on that of the Dylan Thomas Society at DT Soc.

as well as at dylanthomasnews

The Trail is included in the Wikipedia articles for New Quay, Aberaeron, Lampeter, Llangrannog and Ceredigion Celynbach (talk) 13:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Additional references have been added. I think that notability has been shown. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 17:34, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep The Dylan Thomas websites don't speak to notability, but I think it's been talked about enough in other sources to pass WP:GNG. SportingFlyer  talk  01:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as clearly Notable. Per WP:NEXIST this trail was notable also before the nomination. That said, thanks for referencing, all! gidonb (talk) 01:43, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Satisfies GNG. James500 (talk) 19:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


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