Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dzwonowo (hamlet), Wałcz County


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The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Dzwonowo, Wałcz County. If there is interest in a merge the history is preserved Spartaz Humbug! 05:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Dzwonowo (hamlet), Wałcz County

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Yet another duplicate Polish "hamlet" article. The location in the article is just across the lake from the village of Dzwonowo which we already have an article about (see Dzwonowo, Wałcz County) and is manifestly the same subject. The eteryt database and place-name law (notably a list of place-names for towns and their parts, and so not a simple listing of towns) in the article describes the location as a "forest settlement" (osada leśna) and provide no more detail than this - there is no evidence that the location is populated provided in any of them. The place is also not a hamlet (which would be a przysiółek).

The actual location under discussion is a honey farm (Pasieka Marynia - see their website here: ), the real standard that should be applied here in WP:NCORP, which it obviously fails. Notably, the address given for this location on GMaps is Dzwonowo 27, 78-630 Dzwonowo, Poland, which is part of the same numbered series of houses as the shop in the centre of Dzwonowo village (Dzwonowo 21, 78-630 Dzwonowo, Poland) and the German cemetary just outside of it (Dzwonowo 11A, 78-630 Dzwonowo, Poland). All of which is just a very long way of saying that this is in every way just part of something that we already have an article about.

No point merging since there's no content to merge. No point redirecting as no-one is likely to search this term, not least because the location is not a hamlet. FOARP (talk) 08:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Poland. FOARP (talk) 08:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)


 * "A hamlet is always part of a larger municipality or may be shared between two municipalities. The difference between a hamlet and a village is that typically a hamlet lacks a compact core settlement and lacks a central building such as a church or inn." - Wikipedia Hamlet V.S. Village PaulGamerBoy360 (talk) 17:40, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That's the Wikipedia definition of a hamlet. Polish law defines one as:
 * "przysiółek - skupisko kilku gospodarstw położonych poza zabudową wsi stanowiące integralną część wsi;"
 * Which in machine translation is:
 * "hamlet - a cluster of several farms located outside the village, constituting an integral part of the village;"
 * It appears the reason why this place (eminently a single farm in the village of Dzwonowo) was not classed as a hamlet was because it does not rise to the level of being a "cluster of several farms", so instead it is classed as a "forest settlement" (osada leśna). FOARP (talk) 18:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect. Per my comments in similar recent discussions, I am not seeing GNG sufficient for stand-alone article, but noting in the main village that it has such a hamlet recognized administratively as a separate entity makes sense. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.