Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EET n°479 'Dr. Manuel Pizarro'


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The result was withdrawn by nominator. J Mundo and others have verified that it's a legitimate school and not just a training center, and consensus to keep is clear. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 03:22, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

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Appears to be a non-notable vocational-technical "school" or training center; this is their website. This article itself is nearly incomprehensible (possibly the result of a machine translation) and I don't see any evidence that it's worth the effort to clean up, since it does not seem to be notable anyway. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 14:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. The article does clearly state that this school has been designated as a World Heritage Site.  This suggests a level of notability beyond the average trade school.  Perhaps someone whose Spanish is more surefooted than mine could check out the truth of this claim.  The machine translator (the poor dear!) seems mostly to have gotten hung up on the compulsory gender marking in Spanish; that could be cleaned up if this proves to be a worthy subject.  If high schools are notable per se, perhaps this school counts also; someone who knows more about education in Argentina might weigh in.  adding The school building seems to have some kind of significance; I was able to get that much out of this text:El titular de la cartera de Obras Públicas y Vivienda, Hugo Storero, señaló que el edificio de la escuela Pizarro forma parte del “patrimonio urbano y arquitectónico de la ciudad de Santa Fe”, por lo que desde el ministerio se ha proyectado un “abordaje integral” sobre el mismo.  - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I would take the World Heritage thing with a grain of salt unless a source is supplied; I'm not an expert, but as far as i know a local government can't "declare" a World Heritage Site. And the writer of this article has a userspace that's full of pages with puffed-up claims (for example, he has a "wikiproject" in his userspace that claims to be "official policy" and "mandatory for all editors of English, spanish" and several other wikis), so, to be blunt, I'm not sure it's true. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 14:26, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Also no sign of it at List of World Heritage Sites in the Americas. Of course, it's possible that the article writer was thinking of some municipal award and wrote "World Heritage Sites" because he didn't know the difference.  I don't know. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 14:30, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  --  J mundo 14:26, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep--as far as I understand it, colleges are inherently notable. That the article needs work is the understatement of the week, and I also don't buy the World Heritage Site claim. Drmies (talk) 19:03, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I took the butcher's knife to the article. In the absence of reliable sources (ahem, in a language I can read) the article will have to rely on notability often extended to schools and colleges. I have no doubt it's notable, but it needs some TLC. Drmies (talk) 19:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time to do that; it looks a lot better now (although should probably be moved to a more normal title that is a more likely search term), even without sources. My only remaining question, though, is whether it is really a college/school/university as opposed to a privately established training center/business.  Not knowing much about how accreditation or whatever works in Argentina, and not being a Spanish speaker, it's hard for me to tell.  If anyone could find out about that and verify that it is really a legitimate institution, I would be willing to withdraw this AfD. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 19:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey Rjanag, thanks. You're right about the title and I had a quick look at that, but I've never moved or retitled anything--and since my Spanish sucks I shouldn't be messing with much more than the obvious. And I also can't get a hold of precisely what this thing is, which is why I was a bit vague, saying "schools and colleges." Let the AfD stand, and let's hope that some passers-by will help us out here. Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 20:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NHS--  This is the equivalence of a public technical high school in the U.S. (for example, students can only be dismissed early to parents,  ). The news article verify  this  school is run by the government. BTW, the RS only says that the school is a heritage site of the city of Santa Fe. -- J mundo 20:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I suggest moving the article to Dr. Manuel Pizarro Technical School. -- J mundo 21:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - technical high school for which sources are available. Difficulties in translation are not a reason for deletion. TerriersFan (talk) 22:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


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