Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EP Daily hosts


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The result was   redirect to EP Daily. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 10:08, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

EP Daily hosts

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Poorly sourced WP:BLPs of two television hosts. Lucas' only source is a single tweet on his own Twitter feed announcing the birth of his daughter — an unreliable source supporting a fact that has nothing to do with whether he's notable enough for an article or not — while Jones features no sources at all save a couple of primary source external links. Both have been tagged as needing reference improvement since 2011, with no improvement having been provided over the four years since. I'm willing to withdraw this if the sourcing can be beefed up properly, but a person is not eligible to keep a permanently unsourced article on Wikipedia. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 20:49, 27 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - How much time would you give me to beef up properly. I'm trying to do my best here and learn but all of my work is being deleted before I have the chance to work on it. I'm trying my best here to update and make sure these pages are worth keeping. Please don't delete them, help me with this instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrRee333 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - AfDs are usually open for at least 7 days. red dogsix (talk) 21:07, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * What's needed to make a person eligible for a Wikipedia article is reliable source (i.e. real media) coverage about them: newspaper or magazine articles in which they're the subject, books which write about them in a significant way (they don't have to be the core subject of the book, but they do have to be more than just passingly namechecked), and on and so forth. You can't rely on their own blog, their own social media profiles, press releases or their promotional biographies on the website of the show they appear on, as those are WP:PRIMARYSOURCES — it's okay to use them for additional confirmation of facts after you've added enough reliable sourcing to cover off the basic notability issue, but they can't carry the notability in and of themselves. You have a week under this process, but Wikipedia does not extend infinite patience to articles that aren't meeting our standards — they've had four years already, and they can't have four more. Bearcat (talk) 21:28, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

So if I edit this properly within the next week it'll be possible to avoid deletion.

Take a look at the Scott C Jones page. I have references used, let me know if I need more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrRee333 (talk • contribs) 01:23, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Still at zero. #2 is the website of the program itself, thus a primary source that cannot count toward Jones' notability at all, and #1 merely namechecks his existence in the process of being primarily about something else that isn't him. (Did you miss, or actively ignore, the part where I said he has to be the subject of the newspaper article?) Bearcat (talk) 02:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Gaff (talk) 21:20, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete both. the Victor Lucas bio has been up for 9 years and no-one has found any evidence of notability. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:54, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm trying my best here. I'm sorry if it's offending you that I'm new to this and not the most techsavy. I'll just work at it more. MrRee333 (talk) 05:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:16, 7 March 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Redirect to EP Daily as worthwhile search terms. On the video game host front, the article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) Neither individual (nor "EP Daily", for that matter) had any meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources search. Please ping me if more (non-English and offline) sources show in the future. czar ⨹   16:06, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 01:13, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect per User:czar. --Michig (talk) 09:19, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
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