Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ESL (investment company)


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The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 08:18, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

ESL (investment company)

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I'm thinking this company is some kind of a fake. Yes, there are references, but let's examine those references. The company's website, http://www.esltrader.com/, does not come up. They received an award from the "International Stock Exchange Commission", but "International Stock Exchange Commission" comes up with zero Google news hits and only three hits altogether if you filter out "ESL" and Wikipedia and its own website, and two of those are word for word the same. . A search for "eShares Magazine" only comes up with two hits. I'm not sure how reliable Small Business Guide is, except it reads like a Wiki. The Business Week link only says that it exists. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 06:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Observation: The website http://www.esltrader.com comes up for me, if a bit slowly. It is, however, rather thin in terms of data. Crypticfirefly (talk) 06:50, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It finally came up for me, after the fourth attempt. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 06:52, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Further research reveals that the BusinessWeek link is for ESL Investments, an entirely different company altogether. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 06:56, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * And searches for "Quinox Systems" came up with this page, which discusses scams involved. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 07:02, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 14:00, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. I often wonder if some of these business articles may be hoaxes inserted to lend credibility to various schemes; there have been articles on alleged banks that turned out to be unverifiable other than by websites illustrated with stock ad photos, and who knows what sort of mischief might have been afoot there.  Hoax or not, this is all the more reason to insist on significant effects on history, technology, or culture for any article on a commercial business; and the collection of petty trade awards and Top 10 lists offered as evidence of notability here fails to meet that standard. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 15:32, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * delete whois shows that this domain name is registered by Domains By Proxy, which raises a number of red flags to me right away. The same goes for the website of the "International Stock Exchange Commission". Also, after googling Quinox Systems, I came up with this link http://www.qohel.com/2011/03/02/jbc-global-and-cfs-live-stock-share-trading-scams/ where a number of comments indicate that ESL is some kind of scam. I was just going to make this a comment, but the last link makes me change this to delete. (Oops, I see Mark has already referenced this link...)--Marjaliisa (talk) 01:30, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
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