Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Earliest republics in Asia


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Earliest republics in Asia

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One of this article's fatal flaws is its failure to define terms - neither "earliest", nor "republics" nor "Asia" is defined, and even if we accept "republics" to mean Republic and "Asia" to mean Asia, "earliest" remains a deeply problematic term: we are told of three "earliest" republics existing ca. 600 BC and one existing in 1924. Surely both cannot qualify as "earliest", separated as they are by a span of some 2500 years! And then there are the obvious problems of no references, very probable synthesis and original research (ie, no third-party sources have dealt with all these republics at once under the rubric of "earliest republics in Asia"), etc. If there's any useful content, take it elsewhere, but this merits deletion. (And by the way, the whole topic could be improved: see for instance Mahajanapadas and marvel at footnote 14!) Biruitorul Talk 17:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - I agree with the nom. There is also an OR problem, in that there's a claim being made that somehow a definable (but undefined) thing called a republic existed, then vanished, then reappeared 2500 years later. What kind of historiographic concept could account for such a phenomenon? The individual items here could be added to List_of_republics easily enough, at least those not already there. Jlg4104 (talk) 21:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Another article from the early "sources shmources!" days of Wikipedia. A good article could probably be written about non-monarchial governments that existed prior to the 18th century, not just in Asia but elsewhere.  As it is, even the links don't explain much about what made these "republics".  Mandsford (talk) 22:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree that there might be the germ of a good article somewhere in this mess of uncited OR... but to get to it would require gutting the article to the point where we would essentially be starting over from scratch anyway. Blueboar (talk) 22:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, OR. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 15:21, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * "OR ELSE?" :) Mandsford (talk) 21:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete OR and OR magnet. Abecedare (talk) 23:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Asia-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.