Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Earth in science fiction


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Killiondude (talk) 21:19, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Earth in science fiction

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Page has been entirely WP:OR ever since its creation, and is more of a list of random shows and books that feature Earth in any shape or form. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:00, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 03:21, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nom. This page is more TVTropes style than Wikipedia style.  Full of WP:IPC-style sections, no references (other than the implicit referencing of fictional works), and no clear explanation I can find for why anything is or is not in the article. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 04:37, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep but delete section 2 ("Earth as presented in various works"). I was originally going to say to blow it up and start over, since if one thing's clear to me it's that there ought to be something at this title, but upon reflection, there's enough decent stuff under "Common themes" that it's not worth throwing out; that section is still a bit heavy on the examples and soft on the academic theory, but that's fixable. "Earth as presented," on the other hand, is irredeemable. — PinkAmpers  &#38;  ( Je vous invite à me parler )  18:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The vast majority of that section, save for a few sentences, is also just a list of example-cruft. Certainly small enough that anything notable could be put in Earth in culture instead.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:36, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:57, 21 December 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Leaning keep. There are cruft issues here, but there is enough that isn't to sustain an article. Most of the "Earth as presented in various works" section could be eliminated or merged up to the previous section. I believe higher-level sources can be found regarding such depiction of Earth. The article probably needs to be retitled to make it clear that it only refers to depictions of Earth in science fiction franchises where there are other planets to which Earth can relate. There are science fiction works like Minority Report or even The Martian where there is no change to the status of the Earth itself. bd2412  T 14:49, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Gerntrash (talk) 03:49, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment It seems hopelessly broad in scope and pretty far into WP:INDISCRIMINATE territory. Would it be reasonable to merge the material into Science fiction set on Earth or to make such an editorial discretion on the existing article? LargelyRecyclable (talk) 23:54, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:40, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep – the common themes section is worth keeping as a basis for future work, though needs referencing to avoid WP:OR. The examples section should probably be completely rethought. There are similar pages for the other planets (see navbox) so deletion will likely quickly result in the page's recreation, and the page is notable enough to allow the page to exist. I don't see it as necessary to blow it up and start over. PriceDL (talk) 11:50, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems like it is something Wikipedia is not, an indiscriminate collection of information, specifically a Summary-only descriptions of any works in sci-fi that mention Earth. It also seems like it would be hard to complete this page, considering almost all sci-fi's probably mention Earth. — Formal Dude (talk) 00:16, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Putting on editor hat in a hope to help establish consensus: Delete per the policy WP:NOTPLOT. "Wikipedia articles should not be summary-only descriptions of works". That's what this is, just an aggregation of plot summaries. That also applies to the completely OR "common themes" section. Besides, the list's inclusion criteria is overbroad. Most sci-fi is about the future of Earth-based humanity and therefore involves Earth somehow. This is just as pointless as an article "Earth in films" would be.  Sandstein   15:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.