Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Earyn McGee (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. ✗ plicit  11:26, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Earyn McGee
AfDs for this article:


 * – ( View AfD View log | edits since nomination)

notable neither under WP:PROF nor GNG. The references are not substantially about her as an individual, but as one of a group who helped form a notable organization. I do not think she was the lead figure in that--apparently Corrine Newsome was.  DGG ( talk ) 05:31, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  Just ' i ' yaya  06:16, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  Just ' i ' yaya  06:16, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Considering that a not meeting GNG argument was used, but there was no specific addressing of potential references, was there WP:BEFORE practiced?
 * Because...yeah. Her involvement in Black Birders Week is very much the more minor part of her notability. And the available sources above go into a fairly significant amount of her background and childhood. Silver  seren C 06:42, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Here's an example from the Arizona Daily Star source on the information given about her as an individual.
 * "McGee was born in Atlanta and lived there until she was about 10, when her family moved several times before finally settling in the Los Angeles suburb of Inglewood. She’s had an interest in nature for as long as she can remember. Once, when she was about 5, she and her grandmother came across a dead bird while out on a walk, and little Earyn kept begging to go back to try to save the fallen creature. “I was always super into animals,” McGee said.
 * Because...yeah. Her involvement in Black Birders Week is very much the more minor part of her notability. And the available sources above go into a fairly significant amount of her background and childhood. Silver  seren C 06:42, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Here's an example from the Arizona Daily Star source on the information given about her as an individual.
 * "McGee was born in Atlanta and lived there until she was about 10, when her family moved several times before finally settling in the Los Angeles suburb of Inglewood. She’s had an interest in nature for as long as she can remember. Once, when she was about 5, she and her grandmother came across a dead bird while out on a walk, and little Earyn kept begging to go back to try to save the fallen creature. “I was always super into animals,” McGee said.
 * Because...yeah. Her involvement in Black Birders Week is very much the more minor part of her notability. And the available sources above go into a fairly significant amount of her background and childhood. Silver  seren C 06:42, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Here's an example from the Arizona Daily Star source on the information given about her as an individual.
 * "McGee was born in Atlanta and lived there until she was about 10, when her family moved several times before finally settling in the Los Angeles suburb of Inglewood. She’s had an interest in nature for as long as she can remember. Once, when she was about 5, she and her grandmother came across a dead bird while out on a walk, and little Earyn kept begging to go back to try to save the fallen creature. “I was always super into animals,” McGee said.
 * Because...yeah. Her involvement in Black Birders Week is very much the more minor part of her notability. And the available sources above go into a fairly significant amount of her background and childhood. Silver  seren C 06:42, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Here's an example from the Arizona Daily Star source on the information given about her as an individual.
 * "McGee was born in Atlanta and lived there until she was about 10, when her family moved several times before finally settling in the Los Angeles suburb of Inglewood. She’s had an interest in nature for as long as she can remember. Once, when she was about 5, she and her grandmother came across a dead bird while out on a walk, and little Earyn kept begging to go back to try to save the fallen creature. “I was always super into animals,” McGee said.
 * Here's an example from the Arizona Daily Star source on the information given about her as an individual.
 * "McGee was born in Atlanta and lived there until she was about 10, when her family moved several times before finally settling in the Los Angeles suburb of Inglewood. She’s had an interest in nature for as long as she can remember. Once, when she was about 5, she and her grandmother came across a dead bird while out on a walk, and little Earyn kept begging to go back to try to save the fallen creature. “I was always super into animals,” McGee said.


 * As the oldest of five siblings, she said her parents always encouraged her dream of working with wildlife. Their only requirement: She had to be able to find a job and support herself, so when she moved out of the house, she didn’t come back, McGee said with a laugh. She originally planned to go to veterinary school, but all the people she knew who went that route were miserable, so she decided to study environmental biology instead. The lizard thing happened by accident. After she enrolled at Howard University in Washington, D.C., she went looking for a research lab with live animals in it, but the pickings were slim.


 * One of them specialized in fish, another in snails. “I thought, ‘Oh, that’s not cool,’” she said. Then she discovered professor George Middendorf’s lizard lab. Before long, McGee was spending her summers in Southern Arizona catching and cataloging the Sky Island reptiles of the Chiricahua Mountains, where Middendorf had been conducting research for decades. The lizard lady was hooked.
 * So, as I said, rather substantial biographical information available. Silver  seren C 06:45, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. No possibility of passing WP:Prof. The other mentions are non-in-depth word-bites that do not pass WP:GNG. Xxanthippe (talk) 10:39, 29 December 2021 (UTC).
 * Literally lengthy articles covering her entire life are "non-in-depth" word bites? What exactly is non-in-depth about this news coverage (First page, Second page) or anything of what I quoted above? Silver  seren C 11:10, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * A very minor publication, and the article almost appears to be an interview with her, which would not be a RS. If it were in the New York Times or similar, the matter could be different. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:55, 29 December 2021 (UTC).


 * Keep - We're looking at WP:BIO/WP:GNG, not WP:PROF. She's notable as a science communicator/public scientist, not as an academic. There are several profiles in reliable sources, including one distributed via the AP, and several lesser sources which are still nonetheless greater than a brief mention. Looks like a pass to me. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 14:20, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per Rhododendrites and Silver seren. If I had to give two references to show notability, I'd give 1 and 2. Mujinga (talk) 14:39, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per Rhododendrites. Significant media coverage and in-depth biographical pieces. We should reflect the significance giving to her by reliable sources. Llew Mawr (talk) 23:15, 29 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment. Most of the substantial coverage seems to derive from BLP1E, although I can't access the Outside piece. The NWF press release can't be used for notability since it's a press release (an announcement of the award by the awarding org is clearly not an independent source). While the Arizona Star article is significant, it's also in that flurry of coverage in December 2020-March 2021 that could reasonably be considered BLP1E. So is there anything suggesting sustained non-trivial interest in her? JoelleJay (talk) 23:33, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep The significant coverage in the Daily Star and Daily Republic articles (noting that the Daily Star article was picked up by U.S. News & World Report), as well as the Science article which is about a movement to remove offensive names but the article is framed to start and end with McGee, and likely the Outside article, which I can only see the abstract for, meet WP:GNG/WP:BASIC. Schazjmd   (talk)  01:06, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as others have said, doesn't meet WP:NPROF, but does seem to meet WP:GNG. -Kj cheetham (talk) 16:41, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Rhododendrites (GNG as a science communicator). On top of the aforementioned profiles, McGee has also been recognized for her work in Forbes 30 Under 30, a well-established award that's been running for 10+ years.--DarTar (talk) 00:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.