Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/East Bengal the Real Power


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Looks like there is now sufficient sourcing presented to support the keep votes. Fenix down (talk) 09:50, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

East Bengal the Real Power

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non encyclopedic  article about a football fan club.  DGG ( talk ) 05:19, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:56, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


 * , it is one of the biggest and first registered fan club in India. I have used sources for all the data. How can it be encyclopedic? what are missing, excess or wrong in the article? how to rectify them?  ❯❯❯  S A H A   13:37, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * First step is to remove the name dropping. Second is to to reconsider whether the material in section 4 is appropriate to an encyclopedia.  DGG ( talk ) 18:56, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , ok. i will remove the name dropping. and the section 4 "Other initiatives taken" are the works done by the fan club.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   13:21, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , I removed the name dropping.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   14:56, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.   Bait30   Talk? 02:26, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 20:51, 13 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to East Bengal F.C. - does not merit a standalone article. GiantSnowman 20:53, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , so, what to add or rectify to qualify it as article standalone article. see this article, West Block Blues is way to short with just 1 section, still qualifies as a standalone article.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   12:42, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets GNG with several good sources which indicate that the supporters group passes GNG. It needs expanding/improving, not deleting. Nfitz (talk) 18:57, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect West Block Blues, I don't know why people voted on that to be separate, it's still a joke of an article and should be merged in to Bengaluru FC. This article doesn't really have much too it, it should also be merged. I don't see independence away from the primary subject. Govvy (talk) 21:06, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , this is the 1st, largest and one of the most active fan group in India, among all the clubs. i am gathering more info and references for the article.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   15:41, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, needs a lot of copyediting but passes WP:GNG even with just the references listed in the article after dis-including the unreliable ones. Tayi Arajakate (talk) 01:43, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to East Bengal F.C.. Some content may be salvageable but it's important to consider the marginal reliability of many Indian publications, plus the relative weakness of a football culture in the country. feminist (talk) 10:16, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , these are reliable source, some of the top media companies in the country. i have used some international media sources also. so, there is no doubt regarding the reliability. football culture might be weak in the country, but not in West Bengal, or specifically Kolkata. Some of the oldest clubs in Asia are from Kolkata only (like East Bengal FC, Mohun Bagan AC), and the biggest derby in Asia is also the Kolkata Derby.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   12:32, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I think this might be an example of systemic bias on wikipedia because if Times of India, Times Now and Telegraph are not considered reliable then no newspaper can be. Tayi Arajakate (talk) 12:55, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not WP:BIAS, it's more of an unfortunate consequence of a general low standard across the board. See Reliable sources/Noticeboard. I'd say the same for China, though it has different problems. feminist (talk) 03:20, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a WP:BIAS if one is going to disavow any source from a particular country as it amounts to making the process arbitrary on non-international notable topics. Times of India shouldn't have any problems on non-political topics and it doesn't say anything about the other news agencies. Reliability should be seen on a case by case basis and not as a blanket statement. Tayi Arajakate  Talk 16:25, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It isn't any one country, but all countries—certainly including the US, even the NYT.   All news and general magazine sources sometimes print promotional  material. It's the job of the PR profession to get them placed and written.  DGG ( talk ) 22:01, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep- Last time it got deleted due to lack of sources. So, I have added many reliable sources, (like goal.com, toi, telegraph, etc). It is also notable, and not just a random supporter group.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   15:37, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * What is your conclusion on this article User:ArnabSaha? You've made a lot of comments, but you've not "voted". Nfitz (talk) 16:20, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , since I created the article, obviously I will vote to keep it.  ❯❯❯  S A H A   16:36, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I've seen people create articles but then vote merge or redirect before - with even the very occasional delete. I'd suggest doing so clearly, as some closers don't really pay enough attention and just count votes. Nfitz (talk) 16:42, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , ok  ❯❯❯  S A H A   17:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:22, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, The article passes WP:GNG with all the references listed in the article and also as a Supporters' group, the East Bengal the Real Power is India's first officially registered supporter's group who are in existence from 2006 and have been under media highlight for more than a decade. The article is encyclopedic and is relevant for Football in India.-SabyaC (talk) 06:26, 21 February 2020 (UTC)


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