Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/East Germany jokes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. For any who care, the reason for the deletion of the corresponding article at de: was that it consisted only of a collection of these jokes.  Sandstein  08:12, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

East Germany jokes

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The jokes presented here are not representative of jokes in the GDR. It seems more likely that they were made a) by West German people or b) post reunification. The jokes are anti GDR propaganda and insulting towards East Germans. It should be difficult to find reputable sources for real GDR jokes. The corresponding German article Witze der DDR has been deleted long time ago. -- Sloyment (talk) 10:06, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - No valid reason given to delete. The article should be improved instead.  It's notable: the article lists books on the topic, and the proposer admits there should be plenty of references to be found.  "The jokes are not representative" is not a valid reason for deleting an article: make it more representative (you can delete individual jokes if they don't add anything), or tag it for bias/incompleteness/etc. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:34, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Colapeninsula, but I also wish to assert extremely strong concerns about NPOV issues in the article. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 15:14, 16 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Encyclopedic topic (see the footnotes showing). Honecker Jokes, etc. have been around for decades, they are a valid subject of sociological study, and this is an encyclopedic topic under GNG. Making sure that this piece is written neutrally and non-trivially is an editing matter. How the German WP handles this topic is their own affair. Carrite (talk) 15:54, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 17:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 17:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep . NPOV concerns are for editing. The contention that we should delete because the subject is insulting is contradicted by the basis principle of NOT CENSORED. Not being an admin at deWP, I cannot check the deleted   article there, which for all I know, may have been inadequately sourced or had other serious problems. DGG ( talk ) 05:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.