Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/East Indian people


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 01:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

East Indian people

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This article deals with "East Indian people" in a broad, unscientific way and duplicates content found in South Asian ethnic groups, Demographics of India, Culture of India and so on. Article uses old-fashioned racial terms "mongoloid", "Australoid" which could be offensive in this context. "The Races of Europe" is cited, although is it both extremely out of date scientifically, and racist. The article makes some statements which are borderline racist - "the Australoid people are seen in the slums and poor places of India". The original creator of the article is a known sockpuppeteer who has previously created similar articles around this topic (Racial groups of India included) which were speedily deleted. &amp;dorno rocks. (talk) 13:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Agree with all points made. Pranay Da Spyder (talk) 15:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  -- &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:51, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. This was on my to-do list for today, I'd asked User:Moonriddengirl for some help in identifying the copyvios, and it appears that the article is copy-pasted from three different en.wiki articles. In addition, it's pure synthesis, not the first time I've had to encounter that from this particular sock drawer either. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  17:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete and recreate as a disambiguation page. A look at the links to this article(moved around and around by Semeticsmile) has made a mess of the redirects and needs to be worked through and seperated carefully. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 18:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge into India. Vague and unspecific.Canvashat (talk) 22:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep' This is an actual Ethnic group, many people identifying themselves in this category. If any of the terminology is outdated, then you can change it to something else.  Discuss problems on the talk page.   D r e a m Focus  05:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Google news search shows many times news writers or the people themselves refer to themselves as East Indian people or East Indians.  D r e a m Focus  05:17, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Raw WP:GOOGLEHITS are not very helpful. Looking into the 66 Google News hits shows that most of them are using "East Indian" simply to avoid confusion with "West Indian" (i.e. Caribbean). This is an especially common usage in Canada where they've got many immigrants from both places, and in the Caribbean itself of course. Those hits are not referring to an identity based on "being from East India", for example. cab (talk) 06:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate per Deepak D'Souza. The current content clearly doesn't belong here due to WP:OR issues. At minimum, it should be overwritten. I'm not too concerned about whether or not the article/history should be deleted before that happens; I wouldn't object to it, anyway.


 * "East Indian people" in the sense being described by this article itself is not an ethnic group, but it could mean "someone from East India", a member of one of the South Asian ethnic groups, etc. My guess is that readers who goes to this title are probably looking for something ethnicity-related. I doubt they want an outdated exposition of racial science nor a random list of non-resident Indians who have Google hits where they refer to themselves as "East Indian". cab (talk) 06:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment. May I request editors to look at this discussion where I have explained the term East Indians in detail. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 06:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete obviously (c.f., the archaic term Mongolism redirects to Down syndrome; Red Indians redirects to Indigenous peoples of the Americas, rather than being a fork) and. as Deepak suggests, create a disambiguation page which directs to Demographics of India, Mumbai Catholics and possibly other subjects that may be referred by the term. Abecedare (talk) 11:11, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - simply an inaccurate title. Thparkth (talk) 19:42, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If the name was changed to simply Indian, would you object to its existence? Although most of them do call themselves East Indians, as does the media.   D r e a m Focus  04:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * In my experience this is only true in the US and Canada. In the rest of the world they are simply "Indians" - which is also the word used in, you know, India. The phrase "East Indian" is mixed up to the point of being almost offensive. Thparkth (talk) 13:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment:I'm Indo-Canadian...isn't the politically correct term "South Asian"? Why not rename the article? Omirocksthisworld( Drop a line ) 00:50, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It would be relevant to point that this article was written as "people of India" article refering to them as "East Indian people" probably becuase that is the demonym that the creator may be acquainted with, and hence it is a personal or limited perspective. As far as renaming it as "South Asians" is concerened,it isnt a bad idea in itself, but IMO it could be a very disputed article. South Asia contains a thousand different ehtnic groups, each of which will demand "representation" in the article. Myabe that is the reason why there is no "people of India" article. Besides that, another personal observation: giving credence to a disruptor's work (even if with good intentions), actually encourages them to keep going. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 05:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. The problem with this article is that it doesn't deal with the subject matter in an encyclopaedic way. Appropriate articles on this subject are found at Demographics of India, Ethnic groups in India, Culture in India etc. Claritas (talk) 15:33, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.