Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/East Middle School (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Ponca City Public Schools. Move the current article to East Middle School (Oklahoma) for the time being and turn East Middle School into a disambiguation. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 09:42, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

East Middle School
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Article is about a non-notable Ponca City, Oklahoma middle school. Please note that this article's school of topic is not the same school as in the previous nomination, so it does not qualify for speedy deletion. A relevant Google search found no non-trivial and reliable third party references. Article also appears to be created from OR per a message on the talk page of the article. Ks0stm (T•C•G) 05:47, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Normally, I'd redirect to the district, but this is probably a really common name for middle schools. Just look at East High School – and it's probably similar. The article should be deleted, but what to do at that site is a really complicated matter. Raymie (t • c) 14:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oklahoma-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:11, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:11, 10 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge to article on school district as this is a non-notable primary school. No redirect, per Raymie above. Carrite (talk) 16:14, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no article on the school district of Ponca City...Ponca City Public Schools is linked in the Ponca City article, but it's a redlink. Ks0stm (T•C•G) 16:20, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * So perhaps renaming this Ponca City Public Schools would be in order? Carrite (talk) 16:31, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about that...if the article needs (warrants?) creating, that would be fine, but it appears the only two schools in the district that have articles are this one and the high school. To me, a simple education section like can be found in Salina, Kansas would suffice (although perhaps with a bit more prose). Ks0stm (T•C•G) 16:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah, THEIR WEBSITE indicates the district has 7 elementary schools and 2 middle schools. That's plenty for an article, even if it's a bunch of redlinks for the time being... Conversion of this page to a page for the district (with a little introductory section) strikes me as a valid long-term option. Carrite (talk) 16:45, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I think I have to agree that Arxiloxos' solution below is probably the one I'm more inclined to go for at this time. At the same time, the article about the district could be created and when it's up to scratch the article could be rerouted to that article. Ks0stm (T•C•G) 16:52, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: WP:OUTCOMES may  offer some additional  information  when assessing  this discussion  for deletion. Kudpung (talk) 16:47, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to East Middle School (Ponca City, Oklahoma) and then redirect it to Ponca City, Oklahoma (which already has a nice list of the city's public schools). Then re-start East Middle School as a DAB page: there seem a large number of likely targets, some of which currently have their own articles (though whether they should have articles is another question).--Arxiloxos (talk) 16:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:32, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete Sometimes, school pages are created as part of a week-long lesson that includes an introduction to Wikipedia, and this may be the case here . In those situations, they stay up during the week and the hall monitors on the new pages patrol hold off on nominating until later.  It's later.  If I read this correctly, East Middle is limited to the 8th grade students in Ponca City, who come there after they finish 7th grade at West.  I guess this could be merged to Ponca City, Oklahoma, but even better would be for someone to turn this into an article about Ponca City Schools and write about the schools in general-- looks like there's a high school, an east and west public middle school, three private K-8 schools and eight elementary schools.  Mandsford 14:26, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Ponca City, Oklahoma per usual practice. As discussed, Ponca City Public Schools would be a better target, if created. TerriersFan (talk) 23:19, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've created a basic stub at Ponca City Public Schools that is pretty much written like my basic AZ school district articles. Raymie (t • c) 06:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
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