Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eastern Michigan University student life


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 14:18, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Eastern Michigan University student life

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 * This material belongs (and already is) in the main article for Eastern Michigan University. The topic isn't notable and extensive enough to warrant a separate article. ElKevbo (talk) 19:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, at least for now. The material is in the main article because it was merged in, despite no consensus for a merge; one editor (Pwojdacz) was in favor and one editor (me) was opposed, but Pwojdacz went ahead and merged. As for whether the topic is extensive enough to warrant its own article, I think 11k of content (including 4,500+ characters of readable prose) suggests that it is. The main article at Eastern Michigan University is fairly large. Article size suggests that "Readers may tire of reading a page much longer than about 30 to 50 KB, which roughly corresponds to 6,000 to 10,000 words of readable prose." Recent versions of that article range from 35 to 42 kB, comfortably within that range. Summary style states that "Sections of long articles should be spun off into their own articles leaving a summary in its place" and that is basically what was done here. There is ongoing debate, both at the article talk page and at Talk:Eastern Michigan University about the future structure of subarticles dealing with the different aspects of EMU. Until that debate is settled, it seems premature to delete this article. cmadler (talk) 20:05, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.  —cmadler (talk) 20:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  —cmadler (talk) 20:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * delete, article has been merged with main page due to lack of information. pwojdacz is attempting to created the EMU article in comparison to "good pages" of other universities listed on WikiProject Universities to create uniformity to other large universites. cmadler's point to expand articles to reduce length is a fair and absolutely correct and EXTREMELY understandable. Project to expand pages on specific areas (example: history, athletics, student organizations, housing and dining) will be done to reduce page length in next few days. Talk:Eastern Michigan University includes possible areas to expand. "student life" attempts to encompass to much information which also can vary by school. Another option is the student life page renamed to a campus page to talk about the buildings of emu or talk about the culture of EMU like Student life at Brigham Young University, which is listed as a good article by WikiProject Universities. Any information currently on the EMU student life will be used on the new pages or used in the expansions on specific areas to prevent the loss of hard work by previous users from being lost. Pwojdacz (talk) 20:33, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * updatethe main article shortening has already been started. The article List of Eastern Michigan University buildings has reduced the overall length of the article. In addition, the Athletics section will continued to be shortened. History and facts will be added to the Eastern Michigan Eagles along with that article will be expanded.Pwojdacz (talk) 21:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete The idea of "student life" seems notable, and "Eastern Michigan University" certainly is, but is "Eastern Michigan University student life" really that notable? Quick example, read the article Student life at Tufts University. While it's not perfect, you'll quickly identify multiple traditions that are unique to that institution. The EMU article by contrast just seems to state what one could easily find in the school handbook/campus map and really does just seem limited to info that should at least additionally be found on the main EMU page. Perhaps if the article were expanded to cover more aspects of what makes student life unique and notable to EMU students the individual article would warrant inclusion.Buddy23Lee (talk) 21:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Well said. If the article could be significantly expanded with good references supporting interesting, notable material then I'd happily reexamine my stance.  If the article is deleted then maybe someone who wants it kept can get it userfied and improve it there so we can revisit this. ElKevbo (talk) 21:40, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Second, well said. I think the EMU article can really use this. I want to add some campus traditions into this now.Pwojdacz (talk) 04:35, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete this is primarily a list of student clubs. secondly, these kind of articles are of little relevance to students outside the university, WP is for a broad general audience, not a WP:NOTGUIDE for students. LibStar (talk) 06:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —• Gene93k (talk) 17:12, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete This article is redundant and can be quickly merged with the university page.Theseus1776 (talk) 21:47, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.