Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ebu Press Ltd


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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:25, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Ebu Press Ltd

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Article deleted after RPOD with reason "Non-notable publisher of non-notable journals. References are either in-passing mentions, trivial listings, or obvious press releases.". Article restored upon request of article creator without reason given. PROD reason still stands, hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:26, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academic journals and Companies. Randykitty (talk) 10:26, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:02, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete No foundation reference meeting WP:SIRS. What remains is in-passing mentions. Rhadow (talk) 18:29, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Rhadow,
 * Thank you very much for your comment. I have studied the WP: SIRS guidelines of Wikipedia. It said,
 * "1. Contain significant coverage addressing the subject of the article directly and in depth."
 * -So far this publisher received news coverage with three main articles here,
 * a. https://thedailynewnation.com/news/346240/All-journals-of-Ebu-Press--now-indexed-in--CAS?fbclid=IwAR06X6FB3qR_NaWLlqrJTMcbbPDhu_HgKb0HE1nDBoHgf5xOf-WD87AXn3k
 * b. https://www.newagebd.net/article/192604/ebu-press-scientific-journals-included-in-cas?fbclid=IwAR2z7BuTGiQZMON2EYv7REVMDjnqXM5NGVvsAdDykUxe_8x_GYTLTT1PWVQ
 * c. http://agrilife24.com/2021/2018-03-19-12-26-20/8547-cas24ja.html?fbclid=IwAR2SAjbL-bXEiUvXy91hM2cSUgFBJQ11dXTyIfBkeyz4bTnoV2uHMF_Jby4
 * All of the newspapers featured the news has Bangladeshi national coverage.
 * "2. Be completely independent of the article subject."
 * -The news covered publisher's other activities along with the publishing work. As this is the Wikipedia page regarding publication company, so I did not focus the other activities of the organization.
 * "3. Meet the standard for being a reliable source."
 * -As I told above, all of the newspapers are highly reliable and nationwide circulated newspaper.
 * "4. Be a secondary source; primary and tertiary sources do not count towards establishing notability."
 * -Due to this rule, I did not cite the publisher's website page as a reference. All of the references sources are reliable and secondary.
 * Thank you very much again.
 * Asifupm22
 * Asifupm22 (talk) 21:50, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Reasonable people can disagree. I don't think that any of the citations meet the requirement for a foundation reference.  They sound like rehashed press releases to me.  They do not "Contain significant coverage addressing the subject of the article directly and in depth."  Rhadow (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom lacks indepth coverage fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:31, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Pharaoh of the Wizards,
 * Thank you very much for your comment. The news covered the Ebu Press Ltd are,
 * a. https://thedailynewnation.com/news/346240/All-journals-of-Ebu-Press--now-indexed-in--CAS?fbclid=IwAR06X6FB3qR_NaWLlqrJTMcbbPDhu_HgKb0HE1nDBoHgf5xOf-WD87AXn3k
 * b. https://www.newagebd.net/article/192604/ebu-press-scientific-journals-included-in-cas?fbclid=IwAR2z7BuTGiQZMON2EYv7REVMDjnqXM5NGVvsAdDykUxe_8x_GYTLTT1PWVQ
 * c. http://agrilife24.com/2021/2018-03-19-12-26-20/8547-cas24ja.html?fbclid=IwAR2SAjbL-bXEiUvXy91hM2cSUgFBJQ11dXTyIfBkeyz4bTnoV2uHMF_Jby4
 * These news are not only the mention of inclusion in a selected database, but also covered the other social activities of this publisher as well. The news published in newspapers are in-depth, however, as Ebu Press Ltd is a publisher, so that, I only focused on the publishing activities in wikipedia page.
 * Thank you again.
 * Asifupm22 (talk) 22:03, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: There is no evidence of notability Almeida Fernando (talk) 13:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Almeida Fernando,
 * Thank you very much for your comment. I have studied the Wikipedia notability guidelines, there the main features are,
 * >"Presumed": The publisher and its journals (please see wikipedia reference list) received significantly reliable coverage by national print media and their news features are so far in-depth. eg,
 * a. https://thedailynewnation.com/news/346240/All-journals-of-Ebu-Press--now-indexed-in--CAS?fbclid=IwAR06X6FB3qR_NaWLlqrJTMcbbPDhu_HgKb0HE1nDBoHgf5xOf-WD87AXn3k
 * b. https://www.newagebd.net/article/192604/ebu-press-scientific-journals-included-in-cas?fbclid=IwAR2z7BuTGiQZMON2EYv7REVMDjnqXM5NGVvsAdDykUxe_8x_GYTLTT1PWVQ
 * c. http://agrilife24.com/2021/2018-03-19-12-26-20/8547-cas24ja.html?fbclid=IwAR2SAjbL-bXEiUvXy91hM2cSUgFBJQ11dXTyIfBkeyz4bTnoV2uHMF_Jby4
 * >Significant coverage": The publisher received significant coverage by national (Bangladesh) newspapers.
 * >"Reliable": All of the national daily are reliable, including, New Age, New Nation, and Agrilife 24.
 * >"Sources": All the mentioned sources in wiki article are secondary.
 * >"Independent of the subject": News, a,b,c completely focused on the publisher's activities including the social services it is performing to the society and students. On the other hand, it also mentioned CAS inclusion.
 * Thank you very much.
 * Asifupm22 (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Simply fails notability criteria. Onel 5969  TT me 19:20, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Onel5969,
 * Thank you very much for your comment. I have studied the Wikipedia notability guidelines, there the main features are,
 * >"Presumed": The publisher and its journals (please see wikipedia reference list) received significantly reliable coverage by national print media and their news features are so far in-depth. eg,
 * a. https://thedailynewnation.com/news/346240/All-journals-of-Ebu-Press--now-indexed-in--CAS?fbclid=IwAR06X6FB3qR_NaWLlqrJTMcbbPDhu_HgKb0HE1nDBoHgf5xOf-WD87AXn3k
 * b. https://www.newagebd.net/article/192604/ebu-press-scientific-journals-included-in-cas?fbclid=IwAR2z7BuTGiQZMON2EYv7REVMDjnqXM5NGVvsAdDykUxe_8x_GYTLTT1PWVQ
 * c. http://agrilife24.com/2021/2018-03-19-12-26-20/8547-cas24ja.html?fbclid=IwAR2SAjbL-bXEiUvXy91hM2cSUgFBJQ11dXTyIfBkeyz4bTnoV2uHMF_Jby4
 * >Significant coverage": The publisher received significant coverage by national (Bangladesh) newspapers.
 * >"Reliable": All of the national daily are reliable, including, New Age, New Nation, and Agrilife 24.
 * >"Sources": All the mentioned sources in wiki article are secondary.
 * >"Independent of the subject": News, a,b,c completely focused on the publisher's activities including the social services it is performing to the society and students. On the other hand, it also mentioned CAS inclusion.
 * Thank you very much.
 * Asifupm22 (talk) 22:13, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Hi you don't need to copy and paste the same response to each !vote. Also be aware of WP:BLUDGEON.  HighKing++ 13:57, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear @HighKing,
 * Thank you for mentioning about this. I was not aware of this protocols. I will not reply with same comments again.
 * Thanks again.
 * Asifupm22 (talk) 14:39, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete None of the references meet GNG/NCORP criteria for establishing notability. WP:SIRS tells us that *each* reference must meet all the criteria for establishing notability - at least two deep or significant sources containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. References cannot rely *only* on information provided by the company such as articles that rely entirely on quotations, press releases, announcements, interviews, website information, etc - even when slightly modified. If it isn't *clearly* showing independent content then it fails ORGIND. Also, the "quality" of the publisher WP:RS is assumed for the most part.
 * Looking at the refences mentioned above, they also fail GNG/NCORP as follows:
 * This notice in The New Nation is based entirely on a press release (says in the article) with no "Independent Content" and fails WP:ORGIND. This looks like the press release and it was published some days previously.
 * This in New Age fails for the exact same reason. Fails ORGIND
 * Note that the three sources above also do not include in-depth information about the topic company, also fails CORPDEPTH.  HighKing++ 14:06, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - Absence of significane coverage in reliable sources which are independent of the subject. WJ94 (talk) 14:59, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


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