Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EcoDater


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 00:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

EcoDater

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Delete Non-notable website. Syruso (talk) 19:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC) Delete Notability is questionable. It looks more like an advertisement to attract more members. I think that having ONLY 500 members and 50 new members per week is not enough to have an article on Wikipedia compared to the other dating websites where there are millions of members List of online dating websites. It is just one of the many many normal dating sites in the world. Nothing indicates that it is notable and that it can distinguish themselves from the other normal dating sites except being eco-friendly, which is not enough. Also, the references provided are mostly news releases. Jolenine (Talk - Contribs) 00:24, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 23:59, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I wrote the entry for EcoDater. I am a blogger with a focus in the online dating industry. EcoDater is a dating site that represents a massive demographic in the eco-friendly/green dating segment. Viewing the list of other dating sites listed on Wikipedia and represented in the List of online dating websites, it is clear that traffic and number of members are not necessarily valid criteria for exclusion from Wikipedia without considering other factors. Note that SprayDate, ShakeMyWorld, and Compatible Partners are far down both Alexa's rankings and number of total members compared to the big dating sites, yet deserve an entry due to their specific associated demographics and/or otherwise notable features. EcoDater is the fastest growing online dating website for the sizable eco-friendly demographic and there is plenty of non-press release third-party content available to cite and support its relevance (which I am pleased to apply in editing the entry if so needed). Its blog and social networking tools also differentiate it from the hundreds of other non-segment-specific dating websites. Amyjen (Talk - Contribs) 18:29, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. It doesn't have significant independent coverage in reliable sources. What I could find was newswires and parroting of press releases. Amyjen, I believe that you are a paid advocate for Ecodater, due to information I found through simple web searches - please read WP:COI before contributing again to Wikipedia. Fences  &amp;  Windows  00:22, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I can assure you without equivocation that I am not a paid advocate for EcoDater, or paid in any other role by EcoDater or by any other dating site. I am well aware of the obvious conflict in producing an entry for Wikipedia were I accepting payment and am confident no information exists to prove otherwise. I advocate on behalf of sites that I believe present value to the online dating community without ever expecting or receiving any kind of compensation. The eco-friendly/green demographic of the online dating community has been under-served and neglected; my motivation in writing the Wikipedia entry was to enhance awareness of a service that many online daters would welcome. Here are two examples of several I found during searches that review EcoDater from an unbiased and original perspective: http://www.blisstree.com/articles/green-dating-find-your-eco-soul-mate/, http://ecohearth.com/eco-zine/social-and-connections/901-finding-eco-love-a-survey-of-the-top-green-dating-sites.html.Amyjen (Talk - Contribs) 03:11, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Advocacy is forbidden on Wikipedia, paid or not. Fences  &amp;  Windows  15:40, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

The style and content of the entry are not intended to advocate the website and I am surprised that it comes across to you in this way. My motivation in writing it could be conceived as advocacy in the same way that someone with an affinity and interest in rock climbing writes an entry on carabiners - this is advocacy in the sense of promoting and disseminating knowledge for the benefit of the public, and inherently informed by an underlying interest or passion. I don't believe that this is a concept discouraged by the tenets that govern Wikipedia entries, but if the EcoDater entry is deemed to be irrelevant and/or inappropriate at this time, I accept this judgment and won't comment further.Amyjen (Talk - Contribs) 00:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * "I also just started working with a new dating site for eco-friendly singles called EcoDater. There is a small group of us working to build it up." Fences  &amp;  Windows  04:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I was affiliated with EcoDater when it started and strictly on a volunteer contributory basis - an acquaintance of mine started the site and asked me for some content due to my writing skills and my interest in the green movement and online dating. I complied, believing in the concept and hoping for its success in benefiting both the green and online dating communities of which I belong. I don't see how this should necessarily preclude a neutral, compliant, third-party-referenced Wikipedia entry on an organization that is unlike almost any other with an online presence and is extremely relevant to both the green and online dating communities, neither of which are small in number. Regardless, if both the entry and my justifications for it are ultimately deemed unacceptable, I do not have a problem supporting the entry's removal and hope that it may be reentered at some later date under more appropriate circumstances, whatever they may be.Amyjen (Talk - Contribs) 10:14, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
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