Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Economic impact of illegal immigrants in the United States


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Lankiveil (speak to me) 08:34, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Economic impact of illegal immigrants in the United States

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This page should be deleted because there isn't enough content here to justify a separate page from 'Illegal immigration to the United States'. In fact, the presence of both this page and a section on the economic impact in 'Illegal immigration to the United States' may contribute to the underdevelopment of both, as editors either add content to one or the other page. The content that's worth saving from this page should be added to the appropriate section of 'Illegal immigration to the United States'. Deleting this page will strengthen the 'Illegal immigration to the United States' page, and ensure that Wikipedia will cover the topic in a more comprehensive fashion. Another important reason why this page should be deleted is that the content on this page is substandard. An editor recently tried to introduce large parts of this article to the 'Illegal immigration to the United States', but upon close inspection of the material in question, it was found to be wholly inappropriate for Wikipedia, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States#Multiple_problems_with_recent_edits_.2831_August_2017.29. I suspect that there are similar problems with the remaining content in this article. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 00:37, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I think the article should be kept. It's challenging to write because people that don't like the opposing side of the argument tend to delete material. It merits a separate entry from illegal immigration in the U.S.Farcaster (talk) 04:41, 3 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge The article is clearly bias from the start. "Unauthorized immigrants demand goods and services (thus creating jobs) while contributing payroll and income taxes".  Does the government get more money in taxes than it pays to support them?  It then says "They also lower prices in the industries where they provide labor, such as agriculture, restaurants, and construction", which means they have no choice but to work for cheaper prices than anyone else would.  They lower salaries available for those jobs.  No mention of how many unemployed Americans would be willing to do those jobs if they hadn't stolen it from them.  Merging this to the other article would mean more people to watch it, and perhaps keep people from constantly removing anything that supports the opposite of what they do.   D r e a m Focus  14:01, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Economics-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:14, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - This is not a fork of Illegal immigration to the United States but is rather a fairly well done sub-article springing as a "Main Article" on a topic from that page to keep the parent article from becoming so large as to be unwieldy. Obviously a topic with massive sourcing available and therefore miles above the GNG inclusion standard. Pretty easy call here if one takes a look at the parent article and then this. Complaints about "bias" are an editing matter, not a notability matter. NOT a POV fork. Carrite (talk) 03:25, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:30, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Per WP:Split - With the other page on deletion, it would be around 232k in size, way above the size needed to be split out in different parts. This page itself is 37k. 47.208.20.130 (talk) 18:33, 9 September 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.