Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ed Marszewski


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The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:16, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Ed Marszewski

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A businessperson and man-about-town in Chicago who, I believe, fails WP:BASIC. He gets hits in Chicago-area press, but I'm not seeing WP:SIGCOV, in independent sources, of him personally. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 00:38, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 00:38, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 00:38, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - Maybe a wrong-headed criterion, but a biography authored and sourced by a former employee of the Wikimedia Foundation is probably compliant with Wikipedia policies for inclusion. I for one feel like the {edit} systemic bias (not attributing to the nominator) {end edit} against regionally-noted personalities is unfair. Metro Chicago has as many people as the nation of Hungary -- why wouldn't we say that "local" coverage across Chicago media is just as noteworthy as coverage of a famous Hungarian, but limited to Hungary-based media? - AppleBsTime (talk) 14:45, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , Fair enough, but please don't accuse me of bias. This was a good faith nomination, which you are of course free to dispute by pointing to sources that cast doubt on my view. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:53, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Please see my edit above. - AppleBsTime (talk) 14:55, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete We do not have the truly broad coverage beyond what is local coverage to justify having the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep I started this article. All of the Chicago-based articles are acceptable sources and the following articles do not come from Chicago-based publications and demonstrate notability across fields of design, art, food, brewing, publishing and so forth over the course of many years -- notable enough for several references in the New York Times, one in Bloomberg, one in AIGA. I believe that these represent "truly broad coverage":
 * https://eyeondesign.aiga.org/lumpen-cofounder-ed-marszewski-on-the-big-leap-from-diy-to-design-led/
 * https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/travel/chicago-bridgeport-five-places.html
 * https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-13/chug-life-how-craft-breweries-are-mimicking-mass-market-beers
 * https://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/us/21cncpulse2.html
 * https://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/19/travel/19surface.html?searchResultPosition=4

Victor Grigas (talk) 14:28, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , The first of these sources is an interview and the rest look to be passing mentions of Marszewski in the context of one of his businesses. If notability is established, I think it would have to be on the basis of the more detailed Chicago-specific coverage of him in particular. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 13:31, 16 October 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:36, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. Many of the sources in the article showcase Marszewski's work, and there are other sources that profile Marszewski or his career including . Since he has received significant coverage in multiple independent sources, he passes GNG and is WP:N. Z1720 (talk) 20:28, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * All of these sources are from Chicago-area publications. I know individuals aren't subject to WP:AUD, but it seems a little strange to me to rely on local coverage for notability in this way. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 20:55, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's odd using local coverage. As far as I know, there's isn't a policy or guideline that discourages local coverage to showcase notability. If there is can it be posted below? I think as long as the sources are WP:RS and pass WP:GNG then they can be used to show notability. Z1720 (talk) 02:45, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I candidly admit I don't have a policy or guideline handy to support my argument. My point is just that people from City X often get coverage in City X's local press, and that we should think twice before considering such coverage evidence of notability in itself. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 03:02, 27 October 2020 (UTC)


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