Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ed Oxenbould


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The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 16:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Ed Oxenbould

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WP:CRYSTAL. Neither of his films have been released yet, and I don't feel that he is notable yet. JDDJS (talk) 17:47, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - Aside from films, isn't it notable enough that he had worked in a short film Julian which won the BIFF in 2012, he has worked in TV's Puberty Blues. I've given enough reliable sources to keep the article in encyclopedia. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 17:55, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Julian does not have a page, so that does not make him notable. I don't know about Puberty Blues. I never heard of that show, but I live in America. If enough other editors feel that show is enough to make him notable, I will withdraw my nomination. JDDJS (talk) 20:11, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Julian (film) doesn't need to have a page, being notable is good enough. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:10, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Grahame (talk) 01:44, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:56, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. Significant roles in multiple notable productions. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Lacks significant roles in multiple notable productions. In fact, per the article, he is "known for" his role in a film that hasn't been released yet. WP:TOOSOON. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 16:06, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - And I think that publicity is much enough to have an article, even the film hasn't released yet. Here is the first image released by studio, which features the child actor Ed Oxenbould. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 18:17, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - Publicity establishes that the studio would like you to lay down some cash to see the movie when it is released. Notability for Oxenbould, OTOH, depends on substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. Articles that are essentially a list of credits -- especially future credits -- are not biographies, they are IMDb pages. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 18:47, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - Yeah, but it'll grow up eventually like others. Every article was once like this, someone has to create them. And please review the article again with sources checked, and read them carefully you'll get your notability perhaps. The article has reliable sources of his significant role in short film, a TV role and other future films. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 19:07, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I see a lot of bare mentions ("trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources" WP:BIO; "Significant coverage is more than a passing mention" WP:GNG). I do not see sufficient material to build a reasonably detailed article. I see a list of credits and future credits. Instead of a biography, we have that he "will play", "acted", "played", "worked", "was added", "was signed", "joined" and "will play" various roles (that's a complete list of the verbs in the article). It lists his roles (and his agent), but does not discuss "Ed Oxenbould", the subject of the article. If "it'll grow up eventually" it will only be through the availability of significant coverage that we do not yet seem to have. If and when we have that sourcing, we can create an article. We currently do not seen have an article or the sources to write one. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 19:42, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * But TOOSOON does not apply on this one, he had played lead in a short and then a significant role in a TV show. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 19:52, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Notability for Oxenbould, OTOH, depends on substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 23:16, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. Expanding on my !vote. Lead in Julian (film) and part in Puberty Blues (TV series) is already multiple significant parts in notable productions. Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day is notable and his part is significant, doesn't matter that it's not yet released. He is already reciving coverage from it in reliable sources. eg full article - . He was also nominated for an AACTA for Best Young Actor (2nd AACTA Awards).duffbeerforme (talk) 08:02, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Notability for Oxenbould, OTOH, depends on substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. We have one source that is anything other than a bare mention. - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 15:55, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Notability for Oxenbould, OTOH, depends on significant roles in multiple notable productions as detailed in WP:NACTOR. We have multiple sources that are more than a bare mention. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * If we decide that those two roles are "significant roles in multiple notable (productions)" it would establish a presumption of notability. We have one source that is anything other than a bare mention. This pseudo-article is not a biography, it is a list of credits. If you'd like to keep it, at least be honest a !vote to move it to Filmography of Ed Oxenbould. Those "multiple" (meaning:several, "more than two but not many") "significant" (13 minutes in one, one mention in eight episode summaries for the other?) roles are all we can say about him. "A biography or simply bio is a detailed description or account of a person's life." - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete, roles so far consist of a lead in a short, and a bit part in a TV series. No sources that talk in detail about Oxenbould or his acting.  It's simply too soon to have an article for him right now.  If and when the reliable and substantial third party sources are created, we can revisit this.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 02:57, 16 February 2014 (UTC).
 * The Sun Herald article talks in detail about Oxenbould or his acting. Not a lot but it's still some. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete This is a classic case of "too soon". If the Alexander film is actually made and released (many announced films never come to be), he may become notable, until at earliest October of this year, he is not yet notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:11, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
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