Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ed Welch


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The result was keep. T. Canens (talk) 05:33, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Ed Welch

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Unref blp - after more than a decade, no clear evidence of notability and I couldn't find it. Boleyn (talk) 19:47, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Boleyn (talk) 19:47, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 22:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 22:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The nomination was due to lack of available referencing, which appears to remain unaddressed. Arguments which directly show source availability would be of help in determining if the article should be retained.
 * Keep I am finding a lot of coverage in digitised newspapers. The article does not seem to cover all his work very well, or clearly - it doesn't mention his albums, or songs he composed which were recorded by artists such as Shirley Bassey and Cilla Black. However, even with what is in the article, it seems clear that he will meet WP:MUSICBIO #10 "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc", and probably #5 "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels", and definitely WP:COMPOSER #1 "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition" (The Snow Goose, apart from any others), and probably meets WP:GNG too. The article could use a lot of improvement, but he is definitely notable. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:54, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. His composing credits for notable works, and album releases, show sufficient significance for inclusion. --Michig (talk) 11:14, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. François Robere (talk) 02:00, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:42, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I have now added some sources, and reorganised the article to some extent. It could be further improved, with more information and references, and more emphasis given to his work other than TV theme tunes. Per WP:NEXIST, "The absence of sources or citations in an article (as distinct from the non-existence of sources) does not indicate that a subject is not notable." As I said, it is clear from the article that he meets notability guidelines (and over 50 articles link to his article). Hopefully now that it has been shown that references do actually exist, the article can be kept and further improved. RebeccaGreen (talk) 09:01, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. There are quite a few articles found in the British Newspaper Archive, e.g. "Ed's Good Number", Daily Mirror, 1 Feb 1972 - confirms an appearance on The Old Grey Whistle Test and a live radio broadcast from Paris, songs recorded by Shirley Bassey, Cilla Black, and Davy Jones, "Going Live", The Stage, 23 November 1973, confirms degree from Trinity College of Music, his songs recorded by multiple major artists, "How to Score a Television Hit", The Stage, 8 August 1991, confirms he conducted a two and a half-hour New Year's Eve show for TVS, "On the Record", The Stage, 18 November 1976, article about Welch's composing and conducting the music to the Spike Milligan-narrated album of The Snow Goose, various articles confirming his contributions to Milligan's Q series and other work with him, and Welch's BBC Radio 2 show. And that's just from the first page of results. --Michig (talk) 09:29, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Michig, I thought I had seen some more extensive coverage in the BNA, but somehow didn't (or forgot to look in the BNA??!) when I was adding references - I'll find the ones you mentioned again and add them. RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:46, 19 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per RebeccaGreen and Michig  Lubbad85   (☎) 16:49, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEYMANN sourcing by User:RebeccaGreen.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:27, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


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