Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eddie Denard


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The result was delete. Tone 13:17, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Eddie Denard

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Fails WP:GNG. Only non-trivial mentions about Denard that I can find are about his altercation with a JBA player, which alone doesn't make him notable. Runningibis (talk) 20:20, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep Again, I have to ask why you and Bagumba are so intent on purging JBA articles? The pushing incident got major press, including in newspapers that wouldn't usually cover the JBA. Also, there were several bios from him from the schools he coached at before the Ballers, so it's not as if there was nothing before the incident. Also, you must not have looked hard for sources, since this is pretty substantial and from his playing days. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 01:44, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: I can't speak for Bagumba, but I personally believe most of the JBA articles that have been created fail WP:GNG and that inappropriate reasoning is being used to try and keep them. The Chicago Tribune article you posted is a viable source in my opinion, but it isn't enough to change my view. Also, I am curious as to why you created the Brandon Phillips AfD discussion but are voting to keep the Eddie Denard article, even though both subjects have received similar coverage (a lot of coverage for a single incident and one/two other articles). Same for Taylor Kirkham, Caleal Walker, Niles Malone, etc., who received even less coverage. Runningibis (talk) 02:19, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I created the Phillips discussion because he was really only known for one event. Denard, on the other hand, has been a coach at several other places and had a playing career. Looking back I probably would have just left the Phillips article alone. I fail to see the incorrect reasoning, and I hope that others will judge whether thee coverage will be necessary to keep -- hopefully so. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 03:27, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't think there's a team called "Hong Kong Bulls" in China or Hong Kong. User:CAPTAIN RAJU can you please add this to the HongKong-related Delsort? Timmyshin (talk) 17:15, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * They did exist, at one point, but confusingly, they played in Shaanxi! (Mentioned here -- though that article has nothing to do with Denard.) Zagal e jo^^^ 15:06, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Great find. This is a team that played in the National Basketball League (China) in both 2013 and 2014. In both years they played in Shaanxi, but apparently the name change to "Shaanxi Wolves" did not happen until right before the 2014 season. From what I could find, their import player in 2013 was Craig Smith (basketball player) (the subject of that interview) and their import in 2014 was Keith Benson. I can find no reference collaborating the claim that Denard played on that team. His name also doesnt appear here. The NBL season runs in the summer, and considering the fact that Denard played in the 2013-14 NCAA season he couldn't have played for them in 2013. In 2014 the team changed its name from Hong Kong Bulls. I I think he did try out for the team in summer 2014, obviously before the name change (thus before the NBL season), but probably did not make it because of the injury. But I could be wrong as this discussion shows. Timmyshin (talk) 17:13, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E: "If that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual." This coach from Lavar Ball's fledgling Junior Basketball Association received a blip in news coverage for shoving a player. Aside from that coverage, fails WP:GNG with lack of significant coverage from multiple independent, reliable sources.  Bios from his schools are not independent to prove notability. Does not meet WP:NHOOPS.—Bagumba (talk) 06:50, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Bagumba - routine minor league basketball player. SportingFlyer  talk  21:13, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete There's no significant independent coverage of him, so WP:GNG is not met. He clearly fails WP:NHOOPS and his only head coaching position was as the Chicago Ballers head coach--and that gig sure didn't last long.  Attacking a player does not show notability and is the only thing he's been covered for. Papaursa (talk) 01:32, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete He fails WP:GNG, WP:BLP1E, and WP:NHOOPS because he lacks WP:SIGCOV (press about his shoving incident doesn't cut it) demonstrating notability. He might turn his coaching career around at some point, but that's pure WP:CRYSTALBALL and does nothing to prove this articles subject notable now. Newshunter12 (talk) 03:48, 27 September 2018 (UTC)


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