Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edelgard Huber von Gersdorff


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The result was redirect to List of German supercentenarians. Yet another old person AfD, with much the same arguments. In this case, clear consensus to delete, but WP:ATD argues to redirect to the obvious target. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:23, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Edelgard Huber von Gersdorff

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Clear case of WP:ONEEVENT. Basically she lived a really long time, did something with the EU... and that's it. Maybe worth a minibio on the List of German supercentenarians, but certainly not a full article. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 16:28, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete – I have cited her participation in the "112 emergency number" awareness campaign in the caption to her picture in the German list. Nothing else to preserve once we discard longevity trivia. — JFG talk 16:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:42, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete This article blatantly fails WP:GNG, WP:BIO1E, and WP:NOPAGE. There is no policy that the "oldest x" is notable and this article is packed with longevity fancruft like she was part of an awareness campaign that coincided with her age and had to relearn how to walk due to a disease. Her name, life dates, and nationality are best handled on the List of German supercentenarians where they already reside. This WP:PERMASTUB is not needed. Newshunter12 (talk) 03:49, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I found coverage of her before she became Germany's oldest person, and more when she did. She is included in the book Die Weisheit der 100-Jährigen (The Wisdom of the 100-year-olds). What she "did with the EU" was, at the age of 112, to become the face of the pan-European emergency phone number, 112. I see evidence that she, unlike some other supercentenarians, did become notable in her advanced old age.
 * I have said on another AfD for a supercentenarian, I think that this campaign to delete articles about supercentenarians is attempting to wear down other editors who want to follow good AfD practice and consider them on a case by case basis. 16 AfDs for supercentenarians in just one day does not give time for research and rational consideration of each individual. 'Delete' voters repeat, over and over, words like "blatantly fails", "packed with longevity fancruft", "I have a pulse and I'm not notable", and I suspect that a lot of emotion, and very little actual research, goes into their votes. RebeccaGreen (talk) 10:57, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per above. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 23:45, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. -- ThatBaileyLad (talk) 14:18, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor 05:15, 28 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment from nominator I have looked at the sources above, and concluded that maybe a minibio on List of German supercentenarians could work, but am very much against a standalone page. Nowhere near enough for that. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 18:05, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete but not opposed to a mini bio if someone in the fan club wants to write it up with good sources. Getting old is not notable. Legacypac (talk) 08:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:39, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete The nom says it all. Dates/places can go to the list article on German supercentenarians. --Randykitty (talk) 23:43, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - One of those who were known only for claiming themselves to be oldest or very old. These subjects lack significant coverage especially when we take their extraordinary claims into account. This is similar to other recently nominated articles. Rzvas (talk) 07:06, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * "Claiming themselves"? "extraordinary claims"? There is no question about this person's age; this is not someone who had no documentation of their birth, or only documentation dating from decades later. I do wonder whether 'Delete' voters even read the articles. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:12, 12 December 2018 (UTC)


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