Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eden aurorae/old Eden aurorae talk page

(In Response to the speedy deletion tag)

Tales of the past is one of the most famous World of Warcraft Machinima series made to this date.

The movies are based on the guild members themselves and I believe people have the right to get to know a bit more about the people behind these popular movies.

The information part might be lacking at this moment but every person involved has different aspects of information to add and this will be added as soon as possible.

If you have any comments or questions then I would be glad to answer them.

//Magnus — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarrionEden (talk • contribs)


 * At present I can find very little to indicate notability of the guild and the machinima series having been documented in third-party sources. A Google search for "Eden aurorae" Warcraft guild returns just 27 unique results. Likewise a search for "Tales of the Past" machinima returns just 32 unique results. These could be considered very poor showings for an online game guild and a purely internet-distributed machinima series. Please note Wikipedia's policies require a certain degree of notability, and most importantly that information can be verified through reliable third-party sources. Furthermore, judging by your choice of username I would guess you are a member of this guild; Wikipedia strongly discourages editors from working on articles about bands/clubs/groups/companies they are directly involved in as a conflict of interest; if something is notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia article, it will be noticed by someone unconnected to them and an article created. ~Matticus TC 11:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I see your point in this, but if you try doing a Google search on "Tales of the Past II" you will get 11,600 responses.

I do not know how familiar you are with WoW, but i believe you must have heard about "Leeroy Jenkins". Leeroy Jenkins was a huge WoW Movie Hit and everybody knows about this movie clip, even outside of Warcraft.

Our Movie (Yes, you were correct, i am a member of Eden Aurorae) Tales of the past II, has a pretty large fan-base and a few days ago Tales of the Past II had recieved more total ratings (The ammount of ratings that is) than Leeroy Jenkins has on Warcraftmovies.com, and the avg. rating is 4.95 on a scale of 1 to 5

The reason that i as a member of Eden Aurorae decided to write this, was that i as a member from day one have more insight in the guild than any outsider could have. I know dates when stuff happened, reasons for doing things and details about the guild.

The ammount of useful information will grow when others from the guild add their information.

--CarrionEden 12:29, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The notability of Tales of the Past II is not in question here. The members of the guild may have been involved in producing a popular machinima film, but that does not by extension make the guild itself notable. The fact that you and the other guild members know information about the guild is immaterial; Wikipedia requires information to be sourced from independent, non-trivial published sources (once again, the conflict of interest issue comes up too). But I will take this and the related articles to AfD for a broader discussion. ~Matticus TC 12:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)