Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edith Covensky


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The result was no consensus. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 16:38, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Edith Covensky

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The article makes a lot of notability assertions. She's a senior lecturer at Wayne State, which is not enough for WP:ACADEMIC, not by itself. She's written many books of poetry, which works for WP:AUTHOR if the books meet the guidelines - and it's not at all clear that they do. Gbooks turns up very little - a mention in the Remington Registry which Google results indicate is a Who's Who scam; the entire entry is full of flowery prose. There's not much to support WP:AUTHOR; being published in a "distinguished literary journal" is not sufficient since WP:NOTINHERITED, there's a book about her poetry with zero reviews on Amazon. I don't see much discussion of her work in Gbooks, something I'd expect from a poet that meets authoring notability guidelines. I can find nothing to support WP:GNG. Please note that an editor with the name of the author has heavily edited the article so take all notability claims with grains of salt. Mr. Vernon (talk) 04:17, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete Totally not notable. I couldn't even find anywhere that had excerpts of her poetry. Not that it would matter for notability, but as supposedly one of the most prolific modern Hebrew poets you'd think there would be something out there. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:54, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , as pointed out below, "Under a Silky Sky: The Symbolist Poetry of Edith Covensky" is available at Amazon.com. Not only did she write poems, but others are writing about her poems. Sir Joseph (talk) 04:07, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , I saw "Under a Silky Sky" on Amazon. It's not clear how much of a unique work it is, or if it's just an anthology of her poems with an introduction and minor commentary by the editor/translator of it. Going by the preview it only has like a half a page at the beginning of commentary and then it's just translations into English of her poems. I wouldn't say her work being translated into English makes her notable on it's own. I can't speak for the other sources mentioned though, but if it just comes down to like 3 sources, one or two of which are just English translations of her work with minor commentary, that's still questionably notable IMO. Especially for someone that's supposedly so prolific as she is. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:48, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment For further searching purposes: Her name seems to be אדית קובנסקי in Hebrew and ‎Idit Ḳovensḳi (in Romanian?). There might be some Hebrew or Romanian sources out there, but I'm just not sure to what extent. But I don't think English searches are going to shed a ton of light on a Hebrew poet.
 * There is one book about her work from a Jewish Studies professor (Under a Silky Sky: The Symbolist Poetry of Edith Covensky) and a collection of her poetry (The Poetry of Edith Covensky by Edouard Codish), but I can't find much else other than these 2 Hebrew mentions I can't read: Some sort of magazine/journal and maybe an Israel Literature periodical, and a piece included in the Journal of the Israel Association of Writers in English. - Whisperjanes (talk) 03:37, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. The book -- and articles --  about her work is sufficient for notability.  Additionally, there are multiple books of her's listed on Worldcat . but I cannot judge the importance of their publishers, and the holdingsin American libraries of Hebrew-language poets is not a good indication of anything. search for reviews would need to be made in periodicals in languages that I do not  read.  Does the nominator?  DGG ( talk ) 18:18, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete does not meet the inclusion criteria for academics.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:55, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 16:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, I've done some cleanup work on this, and want to thank for pointing out the variants on her name, which are used by authorities/libraries. For a really representative discussion of her work, we'd need someone to go after Hebrew sources, but there is enough there to keep. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The subject has had a lengthy literary career with enough coverage to meet WP:BIO. She also passes WP:AUTHOR and meets notability guidelines. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 19:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm looking at the new references - one didn't mention her at all, one had a trivial mention, one is listing her as a future book club reading. I'm not sure how any of that meets WP:GNG or WP:BIO or WP:AUTHOR. Writing several books of poetry does not confer inherent notability. I will clean up the references. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 19:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)


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