Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edizione-Pennino

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was ambiguous. I'm going to call this as a "default to keep" and then exercise my rights as an ordinary editor to be bold and turn this into a redirect to the winery. I see no potential for this particular article to ever expand past a sub-stub. I do agree with Justinc's argument that the google test is skewed in this case because of hits for retailers. Rossami (talk) 04:32, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Edizione-Pennino
This page has no content. There is no point writing an article about a particular wine if even the winery where it is made has no entry (which could mention the wine in passing perhaps). It is not famous. Justinc 21:40, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - just needs a liitle more info. It's a stub. Dennyboy34
 * Delete oenocruft. Note that the page is not literally blank (which I what I thought Justinc meant). FreplySpang (talk) 21:46, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep notable wines. I'm assuming 1,290 google hits indicates notability. If you think there's no point writing an article about a particular wine you can't have seen Sideways. Kappa 22:06, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I am in favour of articles about particular wines. I have seen Sideways, and I have contributed large amounts in the wine section. I came across this while trying to rationalise the categories there. There are millions of different wines in the world, and many are ephemeral. In general the wineries are far more important (Inglenook makes 19 wines - although in fact they dont make this wine at all, despite what the article says. Niebaum-Coppola who do make it are also noteworthy, perhaps mainly due to the link with Francis Ford Coppola), with some exceptions (such as for example Chateau d'Yquem where only one wine is well known). It is fine to list and discuss the wines under an article about the winery, but in cases like this unless the winery has an article there is no point in having one for the wine. 1,290 google hits is not relevant: lots of online shops sell wines. Justinc 22:23, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, in the interests of consensus I've struck out my vote. Kappa 00:22, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Well someone has at least corrected the factual errors and created an entry for the winery. Now its more marginal. Justinc 10:15, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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