Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edmund Moubray Lyons

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Edmund Moubray Lyons
I'd say it was vanity, but this guy has probably been dead for at least a hundred years. Anyway, he's some guy who was in the Navy for eight years, and he's not notable. CDC  (talk)  00:17, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd say delete, but do we have a policy on naval officers? Meelar (talk) 01:20, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment, he was a Captain in the Royal Navy, died in the Crimea War, has a memorial in St Pauls in London. His father Edmund Lyons is more famous/higher ranking and probably deserves an article, I'm unsure about this guy--nixie 01:35, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * keep. if somebody can clean this up, it's a bio-stub. i mean the article is ugly, but there's no reason to delete it. does he meet the criteria? Avriette 03:50, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment not sure about this one. Did he only get a memorial in St Paul's because his father was Commander in Chief of the fleet? Or does the line on his memorial having just returned from the command of the squadron in the Sea of Azov where his brilliant successes were warmly acknowledged by his Sovereign suggest some more notable achievement? Average Earthman 08:22, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to his father's article, unless notability further established. Being the son of a notable person does not make you inherently notable. Radiant_* 09:59, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep dead people with memorials in St Pauls. Kappa 11:05, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Died in battle in command of HMS Miranda while engaging the batteries of Sevastopol in the Crimean War. The crew paid for the memorial at St Paul's. Capitalistroadster 12:07, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep and expand to establish notability as listed by Capitalistroadster. A memorial in St. Paul's with some vague peacock words does not automatically establish WP-worthy significance in my opinion, but it sounds like his actions, at least at Sevastopol, aroused considerable attention.  Source material ought to contain more specifics that can be checked and added to the article.  Perhaps a disambig between him and his father might be appropriate.  205.247.102.130 21:33, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Above vote was mine, not logged in. Barno 21:35, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and allow for organic growth. --GRider\talk 18:52, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * KeepI've categorised it. Article is incomplete and statement on length of service by the nominator is clearly incorrect. Wincoote 01:45, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. --WikiFan04-Talk to me. 20:21, 2 Apr 2005 (CST)
 * Keep. Ridiculously bogus (non-policy) nomination and an example of non-criterion "notability" being measured by the breadth of the nominator's apparently wilful ignorance - David Gerard 09:47, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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