Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edmund Williams


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:48, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Edmund Williams

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Non-notable county politician, does not meet WP:NPOL. Also I'd consider this unsourced. The lone source is "Minutes, Monmouth County Board of Chosen Freeholders". For all we know its a made-up source, even if its not available online, the least they could have done was provide a date. Rusf10 (talk) 07:35, 19 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. MT TrainDiscuss 08:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete. I wasn't able to find much in my BEFORE beyond a genealogy and list-style coverage. There is a more notable fella with the same name who lived in the same period who is not this guy. And there are a few mores - filtering down to name +  Shrewsbury/Monmouth did not lead to much.Icewhiz (talk) 13:59, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Monmouth County Freeholder directors.Djflem (talk) 16:04, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Monmouth County Freeholder directors. While I am able to find online mention of Minutes of New Jersey County Board of Freeholders at a later date (1850) Inventory of the county archives of New Jersey, Issue 15 ("Minutes of Board of Chosen Freeholders, May 10, 1850 (hereinafter cited as Freeholders' Minutes)"), I am unable to verify that Edmund Williams is mentioned in the Monmouth County's minutes at an earlier date in the 1789-1793 range. My general rule is to WP:AGF and point to WP:SOURCEACCESS in such cases, though I do agree the author should have supplied at least a date. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 17:57, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect. County freeholder is not an automatic WP:NPOL pass in and of itself, and the sourcing is not strong enough to make him a special case under NPOL #2 — that requires significant reliable source press coverage, not just verification of his existence in the county freeholder board's own primary source minutes of its own meetings. Bearcat (talk) 17:59, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong delete Even if we had an accurate and complete source, we would still have the problem that it is a primary not a secondary source. What we need to justify this article is secondary source coverage from reliable source that is completely lacking. Not every head of the governing board of every county in the United States is notable. I just shudder at where that would take us.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:41, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Holding a small county-level office does not confer notability. Reywas92Talk 21:56, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete (also Hendrick Hendrickson). Both fail WP:POLITICIAN, being merely NN local politicians.  Even chairman of councils are generally NN.  No objection to redirecting, provided the redirect can be protectedfrom being reverted to a substantive article.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:16, 25 February 2018 (UTC)


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