Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edna Tse


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. &mdash; Scientizzle 20:45, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Edna Tse

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Completing a malformed nom here; I abstain. Subject has been tagged with "may not satisfy notablity", and I somewhat agree. There are a few sources, but five of them are from RTHK only. Doesn't seem to be that notable. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 01:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ten Pound Hammer, thanks for correctly formatting my malformed nom properly. You're a true gnome in that regard.Gnome84 11:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete nn (where are the stories about her?). JJL 02:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete a byline is not evidence of notability. 469 GHits on Chinese name ; adding some constraints to the search to try to exclude blogs and forums leaves 24 GHits . cab 02:18, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletions.   cab 02:18, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable television person. Bigdaddy1981 02:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * KEEP Wikipedia should be inclusive not exclusive. I am a firm believer that most bios should be allowed to remain. All bios need is sources and a minimal standard of notability. The larger Wikipedia is the best of a resource it is. One million articles is much better that one hundred thousand articles. It should be a source of information on the most trivial matters to the most important. Callelinea 03:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Does this article have "sources and a minimal standard of notability"? Preferrably sources independant of the person and the organisation they work/worked for? Can the information from these sources be used to prove the notability of the person, not just the existence of the sources themselves? For various legal and technical reasons, there is a minimum bar of inclusion, indicated by Wikipedia's rules, policies, and guidelines. Meet them, and its 'no worries'. -- saberwyn 04:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, if you have a disagreement with Wikipedia's guidelines on biographies of living people, you should bring it up on the village pump or something, not mass-post nearly the same basic text to twenty-five different AfD discussions without any reference to actual Wikipedia policies. cab 04:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment These are somewhat pointy votes related to Articles for deletion/Isabel S. Martinez. --Dhartung | Talk 05:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as there are no independent sources attesting to the subject's notability. --Dhartung | Talk 05:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless the article's writer can demonstrate any substantive media mention about the subject, which I doubt. After having looked online for it myself, I nominated this one for deletion. Reading the news to an audience is different from being the subject of the news (which good journalists try to avoid).


 * Related Page for Deletion There's a related stub - Yonden Lhatoo - that I am nominating for deletion as well (although I don't think the nomination is formatted properly). It suffers from the same lack of notability in the subject matter - a local news reader with no other achievements or media references.


 * Still More Related Pages for Deletion Grown like weeds: Whoever cleans this up, will probably want to get ride of (CSD? or AfD?) the following pages as well: Nick Waters, Anne-Marie Sim, ATV News. All four of these pages (including Edna Tse) were created or edited by user 219.76.185.6 on April 27th. And all four of these individuals work at, or worked at, ATV News as news readers. ATV is the distant underdog in a two-station TV market that serves perhaps 100,000 native-English speakers in Hong Kong. There is nothing notable about the station or its employees as far as I can determine. Gnome84 11:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't know about Nick Waters or Anne-Marie Sim, but ATV is notable for being one of only two freely broadcasted TV stations in Hong Kong. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * HongQiGong, I agree with you about ATV. The entry for ATV itself (as distinguished from the stub for ATV News) is detailed, and ATV - as one of two free-to-air stations in Hong Kong - is notable. ATV News, however, is just a stub. Unless the author cleans it up to demonstrate notability for the news division, I suggest deleting that stub as well as the individual news readers' stubs appended to it. Gnome84 00:56, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note that Nick Waters was speedied as WP:CSD by after I put it up for prod earlier. This one and Yonden Lhatoo might be speediable as well. cab 02:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 20:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.