Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edouard Stern


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. ~ fl 06:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Edouard Stern

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Articles with mostly unfounded rumors and a murder not worthy of a page Abdelkweli (talk) 14:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I say delete because: 1. This article is full of rumors on the murder and speculation on the life of Mr. Stern and 2. I don't believe we need an entire article on the life of a banker when there are million of bankers around the world. Fails WP:BIO Abdelkweli (talk) 15:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete This article is based entirely on selective media speculation. Various rumors flew across media circles regarding the sexual nature of Edouard Stern's, but none have been confirmed.  This article selectively chooses sources in depicting Mr. Stern's death and should thus be deleted.  Dyc2005 (talk) 15:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC) — Dyc2005 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Strong Keep - I've cleaned up most of the non-factual statements and added more reference. A quick Google search reveals there are numerous articles about him before his death and he was very influential in France. The article could do with a bit more information about his life but this is definitely a notable person. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * How can you say he was very influential? Abdelkweli (talk) 18:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Admittedly he was influential in France as as such all of the many, many references to him are in French but he was the head of numerous international companies and that 'B-movie' was shown at the Cannes festival which I would say made it noteworthy. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:2, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * He was certainly influential but never head of numerous international companies. He was head of Banque Stern and IRR but appart from these two, none. Also if you can find any information on these two companies that would be helpful but they failed the google test on my end. As to the Cannes Festival, anyone can submit their movie to Cannes and more than 4000 do. So that director promoted his movie by submitting it to the Festival and claiming Edouard Stern was his inspiration hoping to the get the media interested. Movie failed = B Movie not worthy. Abdelkweli (talk) 12:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Did a quick Google search for the first company and found that both it and Stern's role in it are mentioned in the book (not self published) |The last tycoons By William D. Cohan, I will try and incorporate this into the article but I think that's notability right there! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:58, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain this is a deletion candidate. The biggest reason for deletion would be violating the "notable for one event" rule. The article has been heavily edited since the AfD nomination and many of the arguments above no longer apply: it is no longer full of rumours, it's now bare facts, which let you draw your own sordid conclusions. "Selectively choosing sources" is usually fixed with editing, not deletion. Hairhorn (talk) 16:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I did indeed remove the rumors. As to bare facts? Please source the facts or else this just doesn't stand. It's everyone bringing their "a friend told me" knowledge. Abdelkweli (talk) 18:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A pretty simple keep. "The story of Edouard Stern is cited as the inspiration for Olivier Assayas' 2008 film 'Boarding Gate'" is reason enough to keep, in addition with the murder and wealth of sources, it's nothing we can't fix. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 16:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep since there are sources. I puzzled--because there are millions of bankers, we should exclude even the notable ones? DGG (talk) 02:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.