Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eduardo Cojuangco, Jr.


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The result was   keep. Nominator has withdrawn (non-admin closure) —Tom Morris (talk) 20:53, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Eduardo Cojuangco, Jr.

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Entire article is unsourced, only 3 references to very minor details, and per BLP, unsourced material may be removed - effectively this would neutralise the whole thing. Since this article is not suitable for BLPProd, i'm sending it here to seek views from other users. BarkingFish 22:21, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Cojuangco is notable on at least five counts: chairman of a worldwide food and beverage company with 17,000 employees, former member of Philippines House of Representatives, former governor, former serious presidential candidate, and founder of a political party that now holds over 10% of both house seats and governorships in the Philippines. All this can be verified in a minute or less through Google Books.  We don't delete articles about indisputably notable people, but instead expand them and improve their referencing.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  00:19, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Neutral It's better to start again, than to continue with this. This almost entirely unsourced article reads like a gossip magazine and should be deleted, a wikipedian will be able to write a short neutral article again hopefully. It's better to have nothing than this for a moment. Cojuangco is notable, that's for sure. Removing the non-encyclopaedic content is also possible, therefore: neutral. La Utnog (talk) 00:26, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per Cullen328.  He's one of the most famous and powerful people in the Philippines.  The problem here is not the paucity of sources but the plethora.  "Danding Cojuangco" yields 4,520 hits on GBooks and 2,570 hits on GNews.  For starters, from the U.S. media, here are profiles from the 2005 New York Times ("Spotlight: The Philippines' Power Broker") and the 1990 Los Angeles Times ("Profile : The King of Cronies Eyes Power in the Philippines : Eduardo Cojuangco Jr. amassed a fortune under Ferdinand Marcos and survived his ouster. He remains an embarrassing thorn in the side of Corazon Aquino.")  The "personal life" section goes overboard in places but I don't see any need to delete the entire article: the introductory section certainly seems neutral and easily verifiable. --Arxiloxos (talk) 00:36, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:47, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:47, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment I've added four reliable sources to the article, and thank Arxiloxos for finding two of them. I've trimmed massive amounts of fluff and unreferenced family trivia.  I see absolutely no reason to delete the article now.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  02:19, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep As per Cullen328's comments and edits.--MLKLewis (talk) 02:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * AFD is not the avenue to ask for better sources. I know the nominator would've wanted to improve its crappy state but this is not the right venue. You'd only AFD when one of the reasons is listed here, and it seems none of those has been satisfied. – H T  D  03:54, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nominator, article fixed by severe scalping and cleanup. BarkingFish  20:53, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.