Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Black Sr.


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Although merges and redirects are often preferable to deletion, it does not seem that an appropriate destination exists. J04n(talk page) 16:56, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Edward Black Sr.

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County freeholder. Does not pass WP:POLITICIAN Only sources are minutes from the freeholder's meeting without even a date provided (also a primary source) and a local newspaper obituary. Rusf10 (talk) 05:50, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. MT TrainDiscuss 06:23, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. MT TrainDiscuss 06:23, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of Monmouth County Freeholder directorsDjflem (talk) 08:00, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete The one non-primary source, an obituary from a local paper, is just not enough to show notability. I underestand the desire of some to avoid Wikipedia being too presentist, but Black does not pass any reasonable notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:44, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Johnpacklambert. SportingFlyer (talk) 00:40, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Monmouth County Freeholder directors (per Djflem). I will remind all participants per policy that "When discussing an article, remember to consider alternatives to deletion. If you think the article could be a disambiguation page, redirected or merged to another article, then consider recommending 'Disambiguation', 'Redirect' or 'Merge' instead of deletion. Similarly, if another editor has proposed an alternative to deletion but you think the article should be deleted instead, please elaborate why." It's hard to understand why alternatives to deletion are hardly ever considered by the arch-deletionists, although maybe that's what defines their brand of unprincipled deletionism. Alansohn (talk) 04:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a huge problem with this. Black is even as much as mentioned in that article. Do you know why??? Because he was NOT a Monmouth County Freeholder Director. If you had actually taken the time to **READ** either the article or your proposed redirect target **BEFORE** posting here you would know that. Therefore I must strongly oppose the redirect.--Rusf10 (talk) 05:05, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I had a different target planned when I read his article, but copied material to vote incorrectly. I have struck out my previous vote and added a corrected vote below. Alansohn (talk) 14:51, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Monmouth County, New Jersey. I will remind all participants per policy that "When discussing an article, remember to consider alternatives to deletion. If you think the article could be a disambiguation page, redirected or merged to another article, then consider recommending 'Disambiguation', 'Redirect' or 'Merge' instead of deletion. Similarly, if another editor has proposed an alternative to deletion but you think the article should be deleted instead, please elaborate why." It's hard to understand why alternatives to deletion are hardly ever considered by the arch-deletionists, although maybe that's what defines their brand of unprincipled deletionism. Alansohn (talk) 14:51, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Now, would you care to explain why we would redirect to that article instead when Black is not mentioned there either? (and there is no appropriate place in the article to mention him)--Rusf10 (talk) 15:41, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm pro redirect or merge, but this redirect makes no sense to me; Black isn't inherently notable to begin with, and redirecting him to a geographic place seems odd. I don't think there are any suitable candidates for redirect or merge here. SportingFlyer (talk) 19:03, 21 February 2018 (UTC)


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