Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Cline


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The result was   no consensus in either direction. Being in many libraries and being well-known in certain circles are not a reasons to keep. Being poorly sourced in itself is not a reason to delete, when sources do actually exist. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 01:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Edward Cline

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Not WP:Notable. No sources cited in article. It also seems like self-promotion. Interestingly enough a Google news archive search for "Edward Cline Sparrowhawk" (that's the name of his book series) shows a couple of local stories about book signings and a letter to the Wall Street Journal by a fan. Borock (talk) 17:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- SpacemanSpiff (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.  -- SpacemanSpiff (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - not my thing, but a quick search of WorldCat sees his books are in many libraries, thus passing WP:V and WP:N. Needs better sourcing. Bearian (talk) 21:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Publishers Weekly has reviewed Cline's books (some favorably, some not) as quoted on Amazon pages. The publisher's website also quotes Kirkus, but this may be only a brief mention.  Cline and his Sparrowhawk books are well known in Objectivist circles. ReverendWayne (talk) 21:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete By my understanding of WP notability he has to be discussed himself in secondary sources, not just have his books reviewed and bought by libraries.Northwestgnome (talk) 03:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Cline appears to meet two criteria of WP:AUTHOR (multiple independent reviews, works in libraries) either of which should suffice. ReverendWayne (talk) 18:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This seems to be the criteria you are referring to:
 * "The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews."
 * "The person's work either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums, or had works in many significant libraries."
 * His books seem to be historical novels written for young readers. Such are always in demand by public libraries, but I don't think that makes him notable as an author. There is also no evidence given that his books are "significant or well-known."Borock (talk) 17:08, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep' — Per above. The fact that this article is poorly sourced does not mean it should be deleted. LaszloWalrus (talk) 19:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


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