Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Keonjian


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Unionhawk Talk E-mail 13:09, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Edward Keonjian

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1)Edward is not notable enough to be included in wp.2)The article is unreferenced and carries links to Original research or broken links Notedgrant (talk) 19:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep This Article: This is a fantastic overview of one of the most important engineers in the field of microelectronics. His autobiography details and supports eveyrthing in this article, and I as his granddaighter can attest to the information in the Personal Life section. CKeonjian (talk) 19:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Being his grand daughter can be considered as Wp:coi.Besided that wp:npov is jeopardized .The references citied are from an autobiography or dead links or personal websites hosted on geocities WP:REF .Edward is not notable WP:NOTE  enough to have an article to himself on Wp--Notedgrant (talk) 21:19, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Is that book self published? Corpx (talk) 22:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Apparently it is an autobiography (a book he wrote praising himself)--Notedgrant (talk) 06:19, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Check the response below the publishers are mentioned there --Notedgrant (talk) 09:23, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - More, very easy background research  before AfD would have revealed more arguments for notability. For example: Publisher: Sunstone Press; 1st edition (December 1996) ISBN-10: 0865342520 ISBN-13: 978-086534252,  and http://www.nlburkeart.com/i_busts_detail_001.php The possible COI is not  an argument in  this debate. --Kudpung (talk) 01:30, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Yep I agree with that coi has nothing to do with this article .I just have a doubt on the notability of Edward Keonjian ,Thanks for this link but I do not think an autobiography is reliable enough BTW The consensus is on your side I may have to withdraw my AFD :) Good day --Notedgrant (talk) 09:23, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - could certainly use better refs (I just added one) and a few cuts, but a million-selling book (assuming sales are accurate), an invention in the Smithsonian and a bust at the Univ. of Arizona (both verified) establish notability in my opinion. Station1 (talk) 15:11, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - the article has now been significantly expanded, including  more refs and a bibliography of his works.--Kudpung (talk) 19:29, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  —David Eppstein (talk) 23:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Being an IEEE Fellow gives him a clear pass of WP:PROF #3. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per IEEE fellow. Published autobio and newspaper obit should give enough verifiable detail too.  That's a sales rank in the millions, not a number of sales btw.John Z (talk) 00:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - I think this is notable enough, and I found it very interesting about how he was buried alive. An interesting article. Room for improvement. Spongefrog,  (I am a flesh-eating robot)  15:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. passes WP:PROF criterion #3. Salih  ( talk ) 15:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Question. Is it confirmed that he was a Fellow of the IEEE? Xxanthippe (talk) 06:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC).


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