Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Payson Terhune


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Withdrawn from the multiple notes on my talk page made within minutes of my prod/AfD of this article, the rapid fire "keeps" at Articles for deletion/Christine Terhune Herrick, the unnecessary personal attack at the same AfD, etc, it seems clear neither AfD could possibly run in a proper fashion due to the automatic bad faith presumption that anyone daring to nominate an article created by User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) for deletion must somehow want to contribute to whatever personal issues he is having with other editors at the moment. Will at least attempt to be have better faith than those who ran to his defense and hope that the current activity on the article will continue past this withdrawal so that the article is improved to the point that actual notability is shown rather than just adding sources confirming her dates of birth, date, and releases of her books. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 07:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Edward Payson Terhune

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Unnotable pastor and author. Fails WP:N, WP:AUTHOR, and WP:BIO in general. Unlike his wife and son, EP Terhune appears to have no significant coverage in reliable sources other than brief mentions in relation to his wife and son, and a few listings in directory type biography encyclopedias, which are considered tertiary sources and do not aid in establishing notability. Prod removed by article creator with note of "tag take it to afd if disagree, if being in an encyclopedia is not encyclopedic, I am perplexed". Per the article's few citations, he is mentioned in Appletons' Cyclopædia of American Biography, a 1887-1889 work that listed over 20,000 people and is not a reliable source due to its having been proven that the work also included at least 200 fake biographies, a clear failing of WP:RS. The second listing, Herringshaw's National Library of American Biography is another 1909-1914 work, with over 35,000 entries, that has a single, short statement on Edward Payson Terhune nestled between the entries on his famous son Albert Payson Terhune and equally famous wife Mary Virginia Terhune. It says, in total, "Terhune, Edward Payson, clergyman, was born about 1825 in New Brunswick, N.J. In 1859 he removed to Newark, N. J. ; and  there took charge of the First Reformed Church. In 1876-77 he was the American  chaplain at Rome, Italy. In 1879-84 he was  pastor of a congregational church in  Springfield, Mass.; and in 1884 he took charge of a reformed church in Brooklyn,  N.Y. He died May 25, 1907, in New York  City." - it does not given any indication of why he was notable or noteworthy, beyond perhaps his one year stint in Rome. This, again, is not significant coverage. He also is stated to have written a three books, none of which appear to be particularly noteable wither. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 06:26, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep meets every requirement for Wikipedia notability. I think you are confusing notability with remarkability. Appleton's is still accepted as reliable despite some bogus entries and has not been blacklisted by Wikipedia. The New York Times is also incorrect every single day, and must print corrections every day, and still is a reliable source. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 06:31, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Obviously, I do not think he meets the requirements for Wikipedia notability, hence bringing it to the community for discussion. No, I am am I confusing the two. Whether he was a remarkable person is irrelevant. Difference being that the New York Times prints corrections, while Appleton's never did, leaving all known errors in during later reprints. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 06:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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