Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Spring, 1st Baron Askeaton


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The result was speedy delete. CSD G3, blatant hoax SpinningSpark 09:59, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Edward Spring, 1st Baron Askeaton

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Hi, The profile of Edward Spring - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Spring,_1st_Baron_Askeaton - appears to be a fake. The main source is given as Lodge and Archdall's work. This does not mention Edward Spring - https://archive.org/details/peerageirelando00archgoog/page/n30. Also: ·        Trinity College records do not mention this Edward Spring - https://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/index.php?DRIS_ID=LCN10378529_0003 Page 772

·        The Blennerhassett Pedigree includes his supposed siblings but not him - https://archive.org/stream/selectionsfromol00hick#page/n109/mode/2up

·        He is not in the Inner Temple database - http://www.innertemplearchives.org.uk/search.asp#name

·        He wasn't MP for Askeaton, that was John Tunnadine who was elected in Aug 1768 - http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/politicians%2001.pdf, http://web.archive.org/web/20180825073908/http://www.leighrayment.com/commons/irelandcommons.htm, https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jitdluWSybIC&pg=PA40&lpg=PA40&dq=john+tunnadine.

·        He wasn’t MP for Winchelsea - http://web.archive.org/web/20180722142411/http://www.leighrayment.com/commons/Wcommons4.htm

·        He wasn’t High Sherriff of Limerick - http://www.askaboutireland.ie/aai-files/assets/libraries/limerick-city-library/reading-room/pages-in-history/list-of-the-mayors-and-sheriffs-of-the-citytitle-page.pdf#page=17

In short, possible hoax. talk to ! dave 16:42, 7 December 2018 (UTC)


 * I am adding the following related pages because it was created at the same time by the same editor and is only documented by the same fraudulent citation.Agricolae (talk) 21:45, 7 December 2018 (UTC)


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 * Delete - WP:HOAX definitely applies. Kirbanzo (talk) 17:09, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - there is certainly something fishy going on. The title Baron Askeaton was added to List of baronies in the Peerage of Ireland in May 2014 by User:LavenhamHistorian by simply copying the citation used for adjacent entries (valid for them, but there is no mention of Askeaton or Spring on the cited source page).  I will WP:AGF and assume they added it by copying another entry and forgot to remove the citation, but this leaves me unsettled.  The Peerage.com reference at least names the man, but the only citation given is a personal email sent a few months before this page was created, so I can't be sure there isn't some link to the creation of this page just a few months later.  I am also going to add Baron Askeaton to this AfD, as it was created by the same User who created this page, User:SillyLizzie, at the same time and only cites the same Peerage of Ireland page that has nothing to do with this title or family. I think all of this editor's edits should be reviewed. Agricolae (talk) 21:44, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:300:C930:F8D2:1EE7:484D:EC37 (talk) 22:51, 7 December 2018 (UTC)


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